I know of some children who receive diaper discipline as punishment. One boy, now 17, has been in diapers since he was 12. Is this legal; is it not abuse?
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In the state of Alabama, whether or not "diapering" an adolescent as a form of punishment is actually illegal in and of itself, I couldn't say. What I can say is that diapering a teenager would be considered emotional child abuse. The adolescent you referred to will likely be scarred for life because of this form of punishment.
He is way past the age of wearing diapers. He's being treated as a small child, which falls under the emotional abuse category of rejecting. You didn't say whether or not the 17-year-old boy must wear a diaper in public. If he is being made to do so, ridiculing a youth in public would fall under the emotional abuse category of terrorizing. Either way, diapering this boy is humiliating, and cruel and unusual punishment.
Since no details were included about how this teenage boy is diapered, or if he's made to urinate and defecate in the diaper and forced to wear the soiled diaper, there's no way to say whether or not any other form of abuse is taking place, such as neglect, physical abuse or sexual abuse.
This 17-year-old boy should disclose to CPS what he is being forced to endure. If he doesn't feel comfortable disclosing, I would strongly urge him to contact Child Help at 1-800-4-A-CHILD (1-800-422-4453) so that he can talk to a professionally trained counsellor, someone who can lend an ear and offer support.
diaper discipline works very well & NO It is no more abuse then putting a band aid on a cut or making a kid wear a rain coat or a winter coat, Etc., Etc.
My 15 year old is the nicest kid in the world sicne I put him in diapers over a year ago. He is relaxed, Very polite and now using diapers at his own will (when he is upset,Etc.)
I totally approve of diaper discipline !!. It harms no one. Some people are so radicall that they think even 1 & 2 year olds sould be allowed to just go on the floor, rather then be diapered.
diaper discipline teaches young & teens that they are NOT as tough (Mouthy & nasty) as they think they are.
Many older kids NEED to return to babyhood at times to stablize themselves.
I have wittnessed severl "diaper discipline" cases & ALL helped the child.
Feb 25, 2008
To Anonymous: ABSURD... by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster
You need serious help if you really and truly believe that diaper discipline is an appropriate form of discipline. You obviously haven't read a thing on this site about what you are doing to your child emotionally. You may think you are doing your child good, but what you are doing will have serious consequences for the rest of his life. You have already regressed him (putting himself in diapers when he needs calming) to an unnatural state, one that is inappropriate and puts him at risk for bullying, harassment, etc. You are doing nothing to advance him for the real world when you incorporate such a ridiculous form of discipline. Indeed, you have set him back.
So don't come onto my site and start advocating for abusive forms of discipline because you are not welcome here! If you care one iota about your son, get yourself AND your son some psychiatric help before it's too late!
candy...was always helping others the only one she could not help was her self. she and her sister was abused by there dad until the time he died. the abuse left its mark on her she killed her self when she was 21 . she could not handle what had been done to her. you can never tell the affect a punishment has on a child. what there mind set is. i have told a few people the details. i will go into a few details. it started at age 7 when her mother died and her dad took over the raising of two girls he had a temper he use to spank them bare bottom . any thing he could do to punish them he did . then he found out about diaper discipline it left no marks on them and no one could see . but he could make it as hard as it could be they were put into diapers 24/7. they were dressed and treated like a baby they had to use a diaper like a baby.that went on for 11 years up until the time he died . she just could not deal with how she had been treated
i have been on the diaper discipline web sites i have seen what they wanted me to see. i have seen what they have not wanted me to see i know for a fact that the man and wife on the main one is an adult baby and a diaper lover his wife is also yet you folks take advise from him and put your children in diapers? why look google his names and look at the posts that turn up . do you want to take advise from a person like that
Mar 16, 2008
think about it by: ronald f
that reader said that diaper discipline was like putting a band aid on a cut . i have been on the diaper discipline sites . i would like her to think about some thing. there is one site. that is run by a man he has no children . when i researched him on goooble. i found that he was an adult baby and diaper lover. do you really think he is out to help you and your child. he has had one site closed down. it was a site were he invited childen that were being punished with a diaper to join his private group. to me that throws up a red flag. if you wanted to talk to children about diaper punnishment how would you do it? why not start a site were the parent forse the children wear diapers . that way you can you do not have to go out and do it your self. he evens tells you how to do it . he even tells you were to get supplies.
you make a child wear a diaper then you put locking plastic pantys on them. and you say it like putting on a band aid. then you make them use use it like a baby would. one site had an article on it how to diaper train your child they said you set the child on a chair with just a diaper on and force them to drink water you keep it up till they use the diaper then you change it then you start all over. you keep it up till they lose all control over there body functions. this is not abuse? like i said this man can not go out on the street to get children. so he has you parents bring them to him. then you have the child post on his site how and why they are being punished. it a private site, its that way so no one can see whats going on. i have heard the children CRY and ask for it to STOP. yet no one want to get there hands dirty. he goes after parent that have tried every thing else . so they are willin to try any thing . i have a site that i have started so children can come to and talk . the frist thing i did was to contact the local sheriff . they have there own user name and pass word. i have al so made one for the fbi were they can come on site and look at the whole site all files. my problem is getting help for the children over seas and in canada. i still working on getting people who are willing to do the support part of the site. i have a place for the children [kids place] one for young adults and one for parents.
Apr 16, 2008
To Anonymous by: Francine
Anonymous, I couldn't agree with Darlene more; diaper discipline is NOT an answer! It is never the answer! It is abuse! And as for making your son wear diapers, even as your way to "calm him down", THAT IS DISGUSTING AND EMBARRASSING!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't even dress my own (future) kids in diapers when they'll get older! Your ignorance for diaper discipline is definitely showing...0_o
Apr 21, 2008
Yes it is by: Dave
I am now 45yrs old and at around 8 or 9yrs of age due to my mother leaving our steady home for a new life with the guy who was to become my brothers dad, I was first physically then mentally abused, he was a horrible man, at this time I had occasional wet nights, and he puersuaded my mother to put me back in nappies/diapers and told my younger sister that she was to let all the other kids in school know about me having to wear them, it,s hard to describe the feelings that one has when somthing like this happens, I was later, at around 10yrs old sexually abused, although I did,nt realise what was actually taking place at the time, by a total stranger, a male, somthing that I kept hidden for many years, these are only a couple of the things that I went through as a kid, and I am currently writing a book about my life, only last week I was seing yet another councillor, my one saving grace is that I met and married a wonderful girl and we are still together after 24yrs we never had any secrets and she was the only one up until recently that knew the full extent of the things that happened when I was a child, one of the biggest drawbacks to all of this is that I have always had a fear of sexual relationship, and that is a problem that only now I am getting help with, another oddity of these events is that I still find comfort in the occasional wearing of a nappy/diaper, although I do,nt consider my self an adult baby, outside of all this I have wonderful freinds, I am a kind hearted person and just like to make people happy. So in response to the question about diaper discipline, I do not belive there is such a thing, I think it is abuse through shaming, which for many kids that have gone through this, forms only a fraction of the whole picture of their experiences.
Apr 21, 2008
you are right by: ronald f
dave as i read your story , i have to agree with you i have talked with a lot of children who have had to wear a diaper as discipline. i have not yet sean how it helped them. in fact most of them have it has done just the reverse. i wish i could get them to speak out. but they will not. the web sites that i have been on that support this type of punishment. the people take great delight in how hard they can make it on a child. they want the child to be put into diapers 24/7. they do it for the childs own good to protect them from the world. there is only one site thats trying to help. and that one is run by a group of young folks. they try to help each other and give each other support. i have to give them a hand i myself know how it fills to be punished in this way. so i reach out when ever i can and try to give them support. i have not been able to find any laws that say it can not be done. its seams to be a gray area . if any one knows of any laws that would help i would like to know. i know in the uk diaper discipline alone with petticoat punnishment use to be used a lot on you men. i still know of some that are subject to it. i have tried to report it. but i have not hade any luck. i have not talked to them latley my fourm went down and i have not been able to get it back
Apr 30, 2008
Calm Down by: Anonymous
I've been to the sites you're talking about and from what I've seen you can relax, they're not real. The people on them are all fetishists. The giveaway for you should have been the completely outrageous and unrealistic stories being passed around as "truth" and the equally outrageous personalities. While I don't doubt that diaper discipline is sometimes used in real life I would be shocked and appalled if it ever came close to the extremes that you find on those sites, and I would be just as surprised if it turned out that anyone on those sites really was punishing/being punished like they claim.
May 06, 2008
Diaper Discipline by: Anonymous
WARNING to those parents who use Diaper Discipline. I am an adult male 51 who experienced this as a child. As a result today, I visit professional dominatrixes to be diapered, put in female panties, and spanked. Think hard about what you are doing to your child. How would you like your child to be like me when they grow up, 51, never married, no children, and full of fetishes. Don't give me any baloney about it won't happen to your child. You have only to look at the sex industry to find out how popular infantilism is. Thank you for reading this.
May 06, 2008
It's highly ambiguous at best. by: JezuBellumAntiThesis
Most reasoning for Diaper Discipline seems to be "regressing the child/teenager in order to protect them from the world". Now while that might be plausible, perhaps even appropriate on a hardened criminal 16 or older... It's just plain ambiguous, and likely fairly harmful in any other scenario.
There's a term for such psychological discipline methods.
"Mind F**king".
And "Mind F**king" is something best left for those who deal with murderers and rapists, for whom brainwashing is not too terribly off the wall. But using this on kids... and TEENS?.
What ever happened to the right to privacy?
May 10, 2008
in reply by: ronaldf
the sites i have looked at are not the ab/dl sites these are fourms were parents come to for information about using a diaper to punish there children. on one site they belive a child should be put into a diaper 24/7 pull ups to school and diapers the rest of the time . the moderator i looked in to who he is. its a real group and look . his only intrest is seeing children put in to diapers. he knows it may turn them in to diaper lovers. yet he doses not care, his group is pro punishmet . even if the child has not done any thing wrong they should be diapered. now i have looked into the group. you can only get on to there site by invite. the frist time i was in the chatt room i was asked if i was going to use the locking plastic pantys. they are used so the child keeps the diaper on and so they have to use it. it is real and it is used a lot more then people think it is. i do not agree with this thinking. the diaper punishments i had as a child was bad enough yet to ad to it. the child know that they have to do it they have no choice. there is no one who can help them. it a private site. if you do not take part in the forum you are droped. no on can get on the site if they are not a member. new members are monitored to see if they are going to yous diaperdiscilpine. the person who does the web site is a it dercator at a hosipatal so he monitors url so if they are being checked into he can tell. i have not found a way to help yet . im not alowed on the site since i have tryed to help the kids. im still trying to help i hade a forum on a free site they could come to but it is down . again i belived it was hacked again i hope not. im working on geting a better site. but that will take time. and its some thing i will need help with. the one person said it not real. i beg to difer with them. its real if any one in law enforcemet is interested i will be willing to talk to them.
May 12, 2008
Part 1/2 by: Anonymous
Dude, I know exactly which site you're talking about, I've been to it. Trust me, none of it is real. Just because people claim to be parents (or kids for that matter) doesn't mean they actually are. Just because they claim to use DD doesn't mean they actually are. You ever been to a bedwetting/incontience support forum before? You see the exact same stuff. People who claim to be kids forced into diapers as punishment by their parents in very bizarre, hard to believe stories. Except that on those boards the people making those claims get called out on them because the majority of people on them aren't fetishists and thus aren't tolerant of such BS.
To drive my point home, let's think about this logically for a minute:
- DD is a very work intensive form of punishment. Probably the single most demanding form of punishment really. It requires that the parent not only have to do everything necessary to take care of a baby but also to do that with a child/teenager against their will. That's extremely difficult and rather unappealing to the parent since they have to change diapers again among many other things. There's no way anyone would put up with that unless they had to. Even assuming they were turned on sexually by it they still wouldn't be likely to put up with it (I'm not guessing about that either. AB's sometimes try to get together to form a "parent"/"baby" relationship and while its always nice and dandy for the first few days, after the novelty wears off so does the relationship. They typically end before the second week).
- DD would also be very expensive thus making it even less appealing/feasible
- For a kid to be as badly behaved as the parents on the site claim would require them to have either oppositional-defiant disorder, conduct disorder, or antisocial personality disorder, none of which would react in even the slightest to any form of punishment. Even a normal kid wouldn't shape up as quickly as the parents on the site claim because discipline is a behavioral issue and behaviors take a long time to change.
- Speaking of which, ever notice how every kid on the site dramatically improves with the introduction of DD? And I don't mean gradual improvement, I mean "its been a week since we put Billy on DD and now all his problems are gone!" improvement. Again, completely unrealistic.
continued...
May 12, 2008
Part 2/2 by: Anonymous
...continued
- Continuing on this theme of sudden, dramatic, unrealistic changes, let's talk about the fact that a lot of kids on the site tend to become incontinent within months, if not weeks. Total BS. ABDLs sometimes try to become incontinent and they always report that its nearly impossible unless you're 100% determined and willing to never hold anything back no matter what the circumstances and even then it always takes years, not months, to get to that point. Just wearing and using a diaper isn't going to magically make you lose bladder and bowel control, you have to work at it. If you always hold it then you're never going to lose control (barring disease, injury, old age, etc).
- Parents on the site also tend to take little, if any convincing, to use DD or make it harsher. This is also unrealistic. It's also unrealistic in terms of how quickly they move (in terms of ordering and receiving supplies, putting into action, progressing with the punishment. etc).
- The public humiliation also tends to be unrealistic. While its certainly feasible that a parent could take their kid into public wearing a diaper underneath their clothing its completely absurd to believe that they could get away with taking them into public dressed up as babies, in strollers, on reins, etc. or making a public show of DD since they would have cops all over them in no time at all.
- It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the guy leading the group is a fetishist. I mean, its really ****ing obvious. You talk three minutes to the guy and you'll find out he's an ABDL (as well as into S&M). I would think that most people would stop using DD upon the realization that the guy telling them to use it is a fetishist.
Now then, does this mean that its impossible that these things could actually be happening? No, of course not. Could one or two cases on the site be true? Yes, but they'd probably be on the more mild side of things. But even then we'd only be talking a few cases at most. The chances the majority of people on that site are telling the truth are so small that they may as well not even exist. Like I said before, I have no doubt that DD does happen. What I doubt is that DD ever reaches the absurd proportions detailed on the site you're talking about.
For the record, the two DD sites that you're talking about appear on the first page results of google. They're hardly hidden and are very well known by the ABDL community. And something that you seem to not be taking into account is that anyone can sign up. Yeah, it requires an invite but to get that invite all you have to do is say you're a parent. To think that the site isn't chock full of ABDLs is beyond naive.
Like you I was concerned when I first found out about the group but I was relieved to discover that it was all just the usual over-the-top fantasies that you find on explicit ABDL sites.
May 12, 2008
Be critical about what you find on the Net by: FurstiGrar
Let me get one thing straight: The only reason for me to put a diaper on a Child, is, when there is a medical reason for it (Bedwetting for example) and never as punishment. Honest, who is not happy when he no longer has to change dirty diapers? Another reality we have to acknowledge, is, that there are People who have fantasies about being forced into diapers, be humiliated that way and such things. Many of their fantasies deal with this done to them in their childhood. And some of them made web pages which fake such fantasies as real. The problem is that some people are so gullibly to take it for real and try it out. But to even encourage others to do so just for your own perverse enjoyment, that's just sick.
Is it legal? Well, most governments grant the Parents the right to choose how they raise their children to different extend. This may include beating them, restricting their freedom or excluding them from learning specific Topics. In most cases it is up to CPS to determine if it's abuse or not. Why not ask them?
May 17, 2008
for the record by: ronald f
the only way i found out that the man who ran the wed site was a ab/dl was to google his name. i saw his post in diapered and spanked children. it was not kind what he had to say to children that he did not even know. in that site he has been refured to as a child molester. he had a private site that he inviterd the children who said that they were being punished with a diaper to join . why was a single man about 30 on a web site . talking to children about diapers? i have done my home work . his past posts are on the web the sites he has left posts at. most sites want web traffic so they make the site so a web clawer can . search the site. i belone to some fourms for web masters. i have seen how they do it. now you are trying to take the heat off from diaper discipline? you talk about the ab/dl coumminty i know the local law about diaper discipline. i also know about groups that have been in the past. they were stopped . this is not the frist round and i'm sure it's not the last one . yes any one can get on the web sites. i do not belive every thing i see on the web. to me you sound like you know some thing about the ab/dl coumminty. and you are trying to take the heat off childrens diaper discipline. i may be wrong . but i will keep the heat on . even if its just a few cases. there should not be even one case. soon the local police will have the information that i have and we will scort it all out. the information is out there and it's not hard to find. if you want you can tell the kids that there is some one who cares. and thinks this is wrong.
