Is diaper discipline child abuse?

by Ronald F
(Birmingham, Alabama, USA)

I know of some children who receive diaper discipline as punishment. One boy, now 17, has been in diapers since he was 12. Is this legal; is it not abuse?

Reply from Darlene regarding your question about diaper discipline: In the state of Alabama, whether or not "diapering" an adolescent as a form of punishment is actually illegal in and of itself, I couldn't say. What I can say is that diapering a teenager would be considered emotional child abuse. The adolescent you referred to will likely be scarred for life because of this form of punishment.

He is way past the age of wearing diapers. He's being treated as a small child, which falls under the emotional abuse category of rejecting. You didn't say whether or not the 17-year-old boy must wear a diaper in public. If he is being made to do so, ridiculing a youth in public would fall under the emotional abuse category of terrorizing. Either way, diapering this boy is humiliating, and cruel and unusual punishment.

Since no details were included about how this teenage boy is diapered, or if he's made to urinate and defecate in the diaper and forced to wear the soiled diaper, there's no way to say whether or not any other form of abuse is taking place, such as neglect, physical abuse or sexual abuse.

This 17-year-old boy should disclose to CPS what he is being forced to endure. If he doesn't feel comfortable disclosing, I would strongly urge him to contact Child Help at 1-800-4-A-CHILD (1-800-422-4453) so that he can talk to a professionally trained counsellor, someone who can lend an ear and offer support.

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Jan 30, 2008
Diaper discipline
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Feb 25, 2008
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by: Anonymous

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Feb 25, 2008
To Anonymous: ABSURD...
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

You need serious help if you really and truly believe that diaper discipline is an appropriate form of discipline. You obviously haven't read a thing on this site about what you are doing to your child emotionally. You may think you are doing your child good, but what you are doing will have serious consequences for the rest of his life. You have already regressed him (putting himself in diapers when he needs calming) to an unnatural state, one that is inappropriate and puts him at risk for bullying, harassment, etc. You are doing nothing to advance him for the real world when you incorporate such a ridiculous form of discipline. Indeed, you have set him back.

So don't come onto my site and start advocating for abusive forms of discipline because you are not welcome here! If you care one iota about your son, get yourself AND your son some psychiatric help before it's too late!

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Feb 26, 2008
candy story
by: ronald f

candy...was always helping others the only one she could not help was her self. she and her sister was abused by there dad until the time he died. the abuse left its mark on her she killed her self when she was 21 . she could not handle what had been done to her. you can never tell the affect a punishment has on a child. what there mind set is. i have told a few people the details. i will go into a few details.
it started at age 7 when her mother died and her dad took over the raising of two girls he had a temper he use to spank them bare bottom . any thing he could do to punish them he did . then he found out about diaper discipline it left no marks on them and no one could see . but he could make it as hard as it could be they were put into diapers 24/7. they were dressed and treated like a baby
they had to use a diaper like a baby.that went on for 11 years up until the time he died . she just could not deal with how she had been treated

i have been on the diaper discipline web sites i have seen what they wanted me to see. i have seen what they have not wanted me to see i know for a fact that the man and wife on the main one is an adult baby and a diaper lover his wife is also yet you folks take advise from him and put your children in diapers? why look google his names and look at the posts that turn up . do you want to take advise from a person like that

Mar 16, 2008
think about it
by: ronald f

that reader said that diaper discipline was like putting a band aid on a cut . i have been on the diaper discipline sites . i would like her to think about some thing. there is one site. that is run by a man he has no children . when i researched him on goooble. i found that he was an adult baby and diaper lover. do you really think he is out to help you and your child. he has had one site closed down. it was a site were he invited childen that were being punished with a diaper to join his private group.
to me that throws up a red flag. if you wanted to talk to children about diaper punnishment how would you do it? why not start a site were the parent forse the children wear diapers . that way you can you do not have to go out and do it your self. he evens tells you how to do it . he even tells you were to get supplies.

you make a child wear a diaper then you put locking plastic pantys on them. and you say it like putting on a band aid. then you make them use use it like a baby would.
one site had an article on it how to diaper train your child they said you set the child on a chair with just a diaper on and force them to drink water you keep it up till they use the diaper then you change it then you start all over. you keep it up till they lose all control over there body functions. this is not abuse?
like i said this man can not go out on the street to get children. so he has you parents bring them to him. then you have the child post on his site how and why they are being punished.
it a private site, its that way so no one can see whats going on. i have heard the children CRY and ask for it to STOP. yet no one want to get there hands dirty. he goes after parent that have tried every thing else . so they are willin to try any thing .
i have a site that i have started so children can come to and talk . the frist thing i did was to contact the local sheriff . they have there own user name and pass word.
i have al so made one for the fbi were they can come on site and look at the whole site all files.
my problem is getting help for the children over seas and in canada.
i still working on getting people who are willing to do the support part of the site. i have a place for the children [kids place] one for young adults and one for parents.

Apr 16, 2008
To Anonymous
by: Francine

Anonymous, I couldn't agree with Darlene more; diaper discipline is NOT an answer! It is never the answer! It is abuse! And as for making your son wear diapers, even as your way to "calm him down", THAT IS DISGUSTING AND EMBARRASSING!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't even dress my own (future) kids in diapers when they'll get older! Your ignorance for diaper discipline is definitely showing...0_o

Apr 21, 2008
Yes it is
by: Dave

I am now 45yrs old and at around 8 or 9yrs of age due to my mother leaving our steady home for a new life with the guy who was to become my brothers dad, I was first physically then mentally abused, he was a horrible man, at this time I had occasional wet nights, and he puersuaded my mother to put me back in nappies/diapers and told my younger sister that she was to let all the other kids in school know about me having to wear them, it,s hard to describe the feelings that one has when somthing like this happens, I was later, at around 10yrs old sexually abused, although I did,nt realise what was actually taking place at the time, by a total stranger, a male, somthing that I kept hidden for many years, these are only a couple of the things that I went through as a kid, and I am currently writing a book about my life, only last week I was seing yet another councillor, my one saving grace is that I met and married a wonderful girl and we are still together after 24yrs we never had any secrets and she was the only one up until recently that knew the full extent of the things that happened when I was a child, one of the biggest drawbacks to all of this is that I have always had a fear of sexual relationship, and that is a problem that only now I am getting help with, another oddity of these events is that I still find comfort in the occasional wearing of a nappy/diaper, although I do,nt consider my self an adult baby, outside of all this I have wonderful freinds, I am a kind hearted person and just like to make people happy.
So in response to the question about diaper discipline, I do not belive there is such a thing, I think it is abuse through shaming, which for many kids that have gone through this, forms only a fraction of the whole picture of their experiences.

Apr 21, 2008
you are right
by: ronald f

dave as i read your story , i have to agree with you i have talked with a lot of children who have had to wear a diaper as discipline. i have not yet sean how it helped them. in fact most of them have it has done just the reverse. i wish i could get them to speak out. but they will not. the web sites that i have been on that support this type of punishment. the people take great delight in how hard they can make it on a child. they want the child to be put into diapers 24/7. they do it for the childs own good to protect them from the world. there is only one site thats trying to help. and that one is run by a group of young folks. they try to help each other and give each other support. i have to give them a hand i myself know how it fills to be punished in this way. so i reach out when ever i can and try to give them support. i have not been able to find any laws that say it can not be done. its seams to be a gray area . if any one knows of any laws that would help i would like to know. i know in the uk diaper discipline alone with petticoat punnishment use to be used a lot on you men. i still know of some that are subject to it. i have tried to report it. but i have not hade any luck. i have not talked to them latley my fourm went down and i have not been able to get it back

Apr 30, 2008
Calm Down
by: Anonymous

I've been to the sites you're talking about and from what I've seen you can relax, they're not real. The people on them are all fetishists. The giveaway for you should have been the completely outrageous and unrealistic stories being passed around as "truth" and the equally outrageous personalities. While I don't doubt that diaper discipline is sometimes used in real life I would be shocked and appalled if it ever came close to the extremes that you find on those sites, and I would be just as surprised if it turned out that anyone on those sites really was punishing/being punished like they claim.

May 06, 2008
Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

WARNING to those parents who use Diaper Discipline. I am an adult male 51 who experienced this as a child. As a result today, I visit professional dominatrixes to be diapered, put in female panties, and spanked. Think hard about what you are doing to your child. How would you like your child to be like me when they grow up, 51, never married, no children, and full of fetishes. Don't give me any baloney about it won't happen to your child. You have only to look at the sex industry to find out how popular infantilism is. Thank you for reading this.

May 06, 2008
It's highly ambiguous at best.
by: JezuBellumAntiThesis

Most reasoning for Diaper Discipline seems to be "regressing the child/teenager in order to protect them from the world". Now while that might be plausible, perhaps even appropriate on a hardened criminal 16 or older... It's just plain ambiguous, and likely fairly harmful in any other scenario.

There's a term for such psychological discipline methods.

"Mind F**king".

And "Mind F**king" is something best left for those who deal with murderers and rapists, for whom brainwashing is not too terribly off the wall. But using this on kids... and TEENS?.

What ever happened to the right to privacy?

May 10, 2008
in reply
by: ronaldf

the sites i have looked at are not the ab/dl sites these are fourms were parents come to for information about using a diaper to punish there children. on one site they belive a child should be put into a diaper 24/7 pull ups to school and diapers the rest of the time . the moderator i looked in to who he is. its a real group and look . his only intrest is seeing children put in to diapers. he knows it may turn them in to diaper lovers. yet he doses not care, his group is pro punishmet . even if the child has not done any thing wrong they should be diapered. now i have looked into the group. you can only get on to there site by invite. the frist time i was in the chatt room i was asked if i was going to use the locking plastic pantys. they are used so the child keeps the diaper on and so they have to use it. it is real and it is used a lot more then people think it is. i do not agree with this thinking. the diaper punishments i had as a child was bad enough yet to ad to it. the child know that they have to do it they have no choice. there is no one who can help them. it a private site. if you do not take part in the forum you are droped. no on can get on the site if they are not a member. new members are monitored to see if they are going to yous diaperdiscilpine. the person who does the web site is a it dercator at a hosipatal so he monitors url so if they are being checked into he can tell. i have not found a way to help yet . im not alowed on the site since i have tryed to help the kids. im still trying to help i hade a forum on a free site they could come to but it is down . again i belived it was hacked again i hope not. im working on geting a better site. but that will take time. and its some thing i will need help with. the one person said it not real. i beg to difer with them. its real if any one in law enforcemet is interested i will be willing to talk to them.

May 12, 2008
Part 1/2
by: Anonymous

Dude, I know exactly which site you're talking about, I've been to it. Trust me, none of it is real. Just because people claim to be parents (or kids for that matter) doesn't mean they actually are. Just because they claim to use DD doesn't mean they actually are. You ever been to a bedwetting/incontience support forum before? You see the exact same stuff. People who claim to be kids forced into diapers as punishment by their parents in very bizarre, hard to believe stories. Except that on those boards the people making those claims get called out on them because the majority of people on them aren't fetishists and thus aren't tolerant of such BS.

To drive my point home, let's think about this logically for a minute:

- DD is a very work intensive form of punishment. Probably the single most demanding form of punishment really. It requires that the parent not only have to do everything necessary to take care of a baby but also to do that with a child/teenager against their will. That's extremely difficult and rather unappealing to the parent since they have to change diapers again among many other things. There's no way anyone would put up with that unless they had to. Even assuming they were turned on sexually by it they still wouldn't be likely to put up with it (I'm not guessing about that either. AB's sometimes try to get together to form a "parent"/"baby" relationship and while its always nice and dandy for the first few days, after the novelty wears off so does the relationship. They typically end before the second week).

- DD would also be very expensive thus making it even less appealing/feasible

- For a kid to be as badly behaved as the parents on the site claim would require them to have either oppositional-defiant disorder, conduct disorder, or antisocial personality disorder, none of which would react in even the slightest to any form of punishment. Even a normal kid wouldn't shape up as quickly as the parents on the site claim because discipline is a behavioral issue and behaviors take a long time to change.

- Speaking of which, ever notice how every kid on the site dramatically improves with the introduction of DD? And I don't mean gradual improvement, I mean "its been a week since we put Billy on DD and now all his problems are gone!" improvement. Again, completely unrealistic.

continued...

May 12, 2008
Part 2/2
by: Anonymous

...continued

- Continuing on this theme of sudden, dramatic, unrealistic changes, let's talk about the fact that a lot of kids on the site tend to become incontinent within months, if not weeks. Total BS. ABDLs sometimes try to become incontinent and they always report that its nearly impossible unless you're 100% determined and willing to never hold anything back no matter what the circumstances and even then it always takes years, not months, to get to that point. Just wearing and using a diaper isn't going to magically make you lose bladder and bowel control, you have to work at it. If you always hold it then you're never going to lose control (barring disease, injury, old age, etc).

- Parents on the site also tend to take little, if any convincing, to use DD or make it harsher. This is also unrealistic. It's also unrealistic in terms of how quickly they move (in terms of ordering and receiving supplies, putting into action, progressing with the punishment. etc).

- The public humiliation also tends to be unrealistic. While its certainly feasible that a parent could take their kid into public wearing a diaper underneath their clothing its completely absurd to believe that they could get away with taking them into public dressed up as babies, in strollers, on reins, etc. or making a public show of DD since they would have cops all over them in no time at all.

- It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the guy leading the group is a fetishist. I mean, its really ****ing obvious. You talk three minutes to the guy and you'll find out he's an ABDL (as well as into S&M). I would think that most people would stop using DD upon the realization that the guy telling them to use it is a fetishist.

Now then, does this mean that its impossible that these things could actually be happening? No, of course not. Could one or two cases on the site be true? Yes, but they'd probably be on the more mild side of things. But even then we'd only be talking a few cases at most. The chances the majority of people on that site are telling the truth are so small that they may as well not even exist. Like I said before, I have no doubt that DD does happen. What I doubt is that DD ever reaches the absurd proportions detailed on the site you're talking about.

For the record, the two DD sites that you're talking about appear on the first page results of google. They're hardly hidden and are very well known by the ABDL community. And something that you seem to not be taking into account is that anyone can sign up. Yeah, it requires an invite but to get that invite all you have to do is say you're a parent. To think that the site isn't chock full of ABDLs is beyond naive.

Like you I was concerned when I first found out about the group but I was relieved to discover that it was all just the usual over-the-top fantasies that you find on explicit ABDL sites.

May 12, 2008
Be critical about what you find on the Net
by: FurstiGrar

Let me get one thing straight: The only reason for me to put a diaper on a Child, is, when there is a medical reason for it (Bedwetting for example) and never as punishment.
Honest, who is not happy when he no longer has to change dirty diapers?
Another reality we have to acknowledge, is, that there are People who have fantasies about being forced into diapers, be humiliated that way and such things. Many of their fantasies deal with this done to them in their childhood. And some of them made web pages which fake such fantasies as real. The problem is that some people are so gullibly to take it for real and try it out. But to even encourage others to do so just for your own perverse enjoyment, that's just sick.

Is it legal? Well, most governments grant the Parents the right to choose how they raise their children to different extend. This may include beating them, restricting their freedom or excluding them from learning specific Topics. In most cases it is up to CPS to determine if it's abuse or not. Why not ask them?

May 17, 2008
for the record
by: ronald f

the only way i found out that the man who ran the wed site was a ab/dl was to google his name. i saw his post in diapered and spanked children. it was not kind what he had to say to children that he did not even know. in that site he has been refured to as a child molester. he had a private site that he inviterd the children who said that they were being punished with a diaper to join . why was a single man about 30 on a web site . talking to children about diapers? i have done my home work . his past posts are on the web the sites he has left posts at. most sites want web traffic so they make the site so a web clawer can . search the site. i belone to some fourms for web masters. i have seen how they do it. now you are trying to take the heat off from diaper discipline? you talk about the ab/dl coumminty i know the local law about diaper discipline. i also know about groups that have been in the past. they were stopped . this is not the frist round and i'm sure it's not the last one . yes any one can get on the web sites. i do not belive every thing i see on the web. to me you sound like you know some thing about the ab/dl coumminty. and you are trying to take the heat off childrens diaper discipline. i may be wrong . but i will keep the heat on . even if its just a few cases. there should not be even one case. soon the local police will have the information that i have and we will scort it all out. the information is out there and it's not hard to find. if you want you can tell the kids that there is some one who cares. and thinks this is wrong.

May 18, 2008
yes and no
by: ronaldf

i do know that diaper discipline does go. on not to the point that is said on the sites. i fill i have to bring atention to it. there are to many parents out there that are looking for a quick fix, for the behavior problems that there children have face. they seam to be willin to try anything, as long as chip is out there spreading his crap . i will be telling people what it is . i relise there a lot of un real stories that are on the web. what is real is there is a man out there who is spreading it as a way to discipline children. and there are parents who try it. i have known some that have. it is not a quick fix. no one can know how it fills, it started in the 1960 as a way to punish children with out spanking them. i do not talk about some things. they are private. BUT i will fight to make sure that it does not happen to any one else. anonymos make some good points. no i have not been to a bed wetters support group. it's good they have them now my dad belived that only babys and girls wet the bed and i was dressed in a diaper and/our a dress. i do not want to get in to that. it's not about me. its about whats going on in that group . even if one parent takes his advise. think how it would harm the child, he needs to be stopped.
i have information about him that as soon as i get it done it will be given to law enforcement. i hope to be able to make a case to close his site down. and to stop him from spreading his posion.
if any one wants to help they are invited to help. there have been people like him before. and they have been stoppped. how a adult choises to dress in private is up to them. but for a man to get on the web and tell parents that this is a cure all for there childs behavior problems. i know of a few cases were it was tryed. thank god the children are with people who love them and care. there are other chips out there. some of them parents . they say that it is not AB/DL site but to talk about punishing a child in this faction is . how do i put it. parents there are no quick fixes. if you child has problems get them help, do not listen to some nut on the web, i relize that it might be hard to admit they may have a problem. but look in to it

May 20, 2008
DD is abuse
by: dave

Of course DD is a form of abuse, in the short term, yes it will calm an errant child down, through the ritual shaming of this treatment, and to the person administering this form of "discipline" ( although this is a word I use lightly ) it will be seen as a result, and therfore it will be used again, however,, it is what is actually happening inside that childs mind, and the long term emotional effects that this sort of treatment can lead to, that is questionable, as a victim of this treatment I speak with experience here, and although this forms only part of the over all picture of what happened to me as a kid, I feel that it is thispart that has effected me most, and for all the wrong reasons, so I would say to any person who decides that this treatment is an option, if you really love your child, then think twice befor going ahead, you may be screwing them up for life, this treatment has left me with a life long dependency on wearing diapers, when ever I get down or feeling insecure, fortunately I am married to a wonderful person who was able to bring out the better qualities in me,with lots of love and patience, but unfortunately a lot of people wo,nt be as lucky, and the long term effects of this treatment will make their lives missery.

May 20, 2008
RE: Diaper Discipline as Sexual Abuse
by: Thomas

Hello?

I have been trying to follow the comments made on this question, and from my point of view, "Diaper Discipline", is childhood sexual abuse. I am age 50, and it was done to me as a toddler/preschooler, for "misbehavior & toileting accidents". I was also physically tied into my playpen, & my crib, long after babyhood, during the times, when my Mom was too strung-out on Vallium, to even "care for me" - as a means of confining controlling me.

I was also an Undiagnosed Autistic developmentally-disabled child, and @ the time, for close to 3 years, from ages 2-5, I mostly lost my capacity to speak, both due to the Autism, and the abuse/neglect I suffered.

The abuse I suffered decades ago, also caused me to have developed that darn "ABy" behavior in me, which I can not control very well, my "regression", and has left me a "psychological cripple", compounding my having finally been correctly diagnosed @ age 47, with Autism (High Functioning)/Asperger's Syndrome.

I experience PTSD flashbacks a lot of being forcibly kept in diapers until age 5, plus acts of sexual molestation/torture perpetrated on my while being tied by my wrists & ankles by my Mom, onto the potty chair/torture chair who filally passed-away in March this year.

My Mom was a never properly diagnosed Disassociative Identity Disorder/Bipolar Disorder
person, who was a psychopath, and who herself, was sexually molested/tortured when she was a preschooler/toddler. She had had a brain scan done on her, a few months before she passed-away, revealing, that her brain, was "missing" the neural connections related to right/wrong/morality.

Anyway, I am a "mess", permanently on SSDI disability, and "just trying to survive, day-to-day with my problems/autism developmental disability.

Also, never dated, never married, unable to anyway...

Thomas



Jun 12, 2008
RE: Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

I am not in favor of Diaper Discipline, since it was "used on me", a "High-Functioning" developmentally-disabled person with Asperger's Syndrome/Autism.

All it does, is create a person like me, who @ Age 50, wets & poops in diapers, & is no longer toilet trained, plus sleeps with stuffed animals & plays with "Baby Toys", ect.

Just do not do this to a child, or the way I am, is the "result".

Thomas

Jun 12, 2008
have read your comments
by: ronaldf

have read your comments and i hope others are watching anr reading this. i hope that the word gets out about diaper displine and what it does to children. in the short term it might get results but it the long term when the child has serious mental problems. the more i think about the diaper displine site. i have sean a lot of children who have been abused. the things a parent would go to abuse a child is un real. would you as a parent subject your child to s and m? if you do as the one group tell you . thats what it amounts to force the child into a diaper, put locking plactic pantys on them . and force them to use the diaper. they tell you the will be a few weeks of crying and yelling then they will stat behaving becaue they have come to relize that you are doing it for there own good. bull s**t/ they stop cry because they have given up . they relize there is nothing theg can do. few people can under stand what it is like to set the in a diaper and be called a baby. and treated like a baby. what affect it has on a childs mind. i hope any one who has a story will tell it . they need to be told. they need to be heard

Jun 16, 2008
To Ronald F:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I'm posting this in an effort to release your comment currently trapped in queue for this submission; there has been a system glitch that has yet to be completely resolved for this particular page. My sincere apologies for the delay in getting your comment to appear on this page, Ronald. Rest assured, I'm monitoring the situation very closely.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir


Jun 16, 2008
to darlene
by: ronald f

thank you for running it. please check your system real well. my fourm site that was to help the kids is down due to hackers. i have had a real problem with one . the man who does the web work for the diaper displinesite.com is a IT director at a hospital. he is real good at it . HAD A REAL PROBLEM WITH MY SITES SINCE I CAME OUT , AGAINST WHAT THEY WERE DOING. the children have tryed start a diaper discipline site , they are trying to get parents to be less harsh, in the punishment, they fill if there is some one else to listen to . the parents will listen and try it. they have a private childrens forum . were only they can come and talk there site is about dead , wish i could do more for them but i will not take part in advising parents how to punish them. the children? i have an other forum site i'm looking for people who can help any children that comes on to the site. if you would like to help let me know and i will give you the address. the only place i have posted it is on the kids site. we will see if any want help. wish there was a way to get it out to others but i have to screen the people who would like to help. i will also have to screen those who ask for help. there are others who are trying to help i can not reveal at this time who they are and what they are doing they are working in side the group. do not want to wreck what they are trying to do. if you know any one who can help them let me know. you can e mail me you have the address it not you can post on your site and i will send it to you
ronald

Jun 22, 2008
do you under stand how forums work
by: ronald f

in talking about diaper discipline i wonder if any one understans how the forums work. when you sigu up you are put into a group. this group is given permisions to see what they want you to see. say for intenct you say you are interested in using diaper displine on your child. you will be told how well it works . you will see stories on how it helped other children. you will be told were to get sulppys . you will begiven advise how to go about it. they will make it look like a good thing a way to help your child. they do not talk about the long term affects it has on the child. how it can tunk them into a ad/dl. our how it affect ther mental state, just how it helps your child and how good they will behave. there a lot more that needs to be said about the group and i will . it will take time.

Jul 06, 2008
Reality vs Appearance
by: Robert P.

***Post moved by Darlene Barriere - Webmaster to Diaper Discipline: Reality vs Appearance on my child abuse articles page on this site.***

Jul 06, 2008
To Robert P:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for such an insightful post, Robert (post above titled Reality vs Appearance). Do I have your permission to remove it from this thread as a comment in order to treat it as its own article on my Child Abuse Articles page? It's too valuable to leave it here, and it would reach far more people treating it as a stand alone article.

If you could let me know your answer by commenting through this thread, I would appreciate it. I'll understand if you decide against it.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir

Jul 06, 2008
Permission
by: Robert P.

Thank you for seeing the value in my comments. These came from the heart and from my own life experiences. You honor me with your request and have my permission to do as you think best. I really hope it saves some child out there. God bless for all that you are doing.

Jul 07, 2008
To Robert P.
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for your permission, Robert. I'll take it from here.

And just for the record, I see value in ALL your contributions, Robert.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir

Jul 08, 2008
Yes it is
by: John

I have lived with it for 40 years. There is no good that comes from Diaper Discipline and those that say there is must be in the Adult Baby fetish. I was 12 when I was put into diapers for 8 weeks in the summer. It was as if I was turned into a toddler. I was re-introduced to bottles, pacifiers, a playpen in which I slept at night, and ate my meals in a high chair. I celebrated my 13th birthday as a baby, along with baby toys and gifts. It was a horrible time in my life. My mom had 5 siblings and each of them had 4-5 kids apiece and I was the 4th oldest of all of them. I was treated as a toddler in from of them. Even had to get diaper changes like the rest of the real babies on the living room floor or sofas.

This is abuse of some of the worst form. It destroys esteem and literally made me hate my parents. I have only a few family relationships
because I would not subject myself to constant ridicule. Therefore I stayed away from even my own brothers and sisters when I moved out at age 18.

The answer is Yes! it is child abuse.

Jul 09, 2008
Even AB/DL's don't want this.
by: Maulkin

I'm an AB/DL (I wear diapers for fun), but I gotta say... this is just sick. If I had never developed the desire to wear diapers at a young age (I think it was around twelve, not sure) and my parents were to put me into diapers, I would have hated them. I would have refused to wear them, and if they had physically forced me to use them I would have responded with violence. I cannot imagine a more demeaning 'punishment' to put a child through, especially if they're made to wear them at school as well.

If the kid wants to wear diapers as some sort of emotional outlet and the parents agree to it, fine (well do I understand how unfilfilled emotional needs can harm a child). And, if the kid is wetting the bed and other methods (sleep alarms, plastic bedsheets) don't work, that is also acceptable. But to force a fully continent kid into diapers against their will for misbehavior? No. There are more effective forms of conditioning out there (positive and negative reinforcement), and diapering a kid will only breed hate and misery in his heart. It is nothing short of child abuse, and must be illegal.

Jul 11, 2008
RE: Further Thoughts on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

As I said before, this punishment is all about mind manipulation, control, humiliation, & devaluation of a child, by making him/her "be a baby again".

Although as an adult with Asperger's Syndrome/HFA lifelong developmental disability, it was done to me, causing me to be now "in diapers 24/7", emotionally (& medically).

My "recently deceased" Mom who did this to me from age 2 to 5 years old, herself was a "messed up" mentally-ill person, who made life "Hell" for me, from early childhood onward, & although she is dead now, I am "scarred for life", & "trapped" in "ABy behavioral mode", when I get "too cognitively overloaded", from sensory input oveload, which is a part of being autistic.

She wanted to have a lifelong "baby", & unfortunately "she got one", "me", & I will pay for it the rest of my adult life.

Sinceely,

Thomas

Jul 12, 2008
I'm glad to see the response
by: ronald f

i'm glad to see so many people responding to this when you put diaperdispline in the search engine this is on the frist page. so maybe people will read it. yes there should be a law but i have not found one. as far as the web site they have the frist admendment right to free speech. this is what i have been told the local sherrif has not been able to get on to there site . what is needer is for the children to speek put but they do not. i would like to thank robert for telling his story. my goal is to help these children. i'm not sure how .
i was made to wear diapers as a child. along with having to wear dresses. i will not go into the details . like i have said this is not about me its about trying to get help for some children that need it. if any one in law enforsement would like to talk . i would like to talk to you. i can show you who is who.
if darline knows of any one who can help these children let me know . we can tell how bad it is and say how wrong it is all day long but that does not help those who need it now i ask what can we do to help those who need it?
ronald f

Jul 12, 2008
diaper discipline
by: Anonymous

Humm I had never thought about it that way.
I have and do have my boy who is now 11 wear Goodnites to bed do to the fact he wets at night.
After taking him to the doctor and talking with his mother we decided it was just his change in life and he would grow out of it.
as for making my boy who I am so proud of wear a diaper 24/7 that is crazy.
Is what we are doing wrong???????
I hope not and I hope I am not going to cause him and harm, I just think if he cant make it to the bathroom at night at his age the extra protection is to help him and make him feel safe.

Jul 13, 2008
Goodnights for wetting
by: Maulkin

Having your son use goodnights for wetting is fine - after all, if he cannot make it to the bathroom and other methods have been tried, it's the only option. If he doesn't like that, ask him if he can think of any alternatives (thus showing him that you don't want to punish him or hurt him, but that you see no other way).

Of course, you might want to consider "Under Jams" - they fit more like real underwear than Goodnights, and thus are easier to hide.

Jul 15, 2008
How Would A Child Know if DD is Child Abuse?
by: MJ

Here is a suggestion for how a Child could find out if DD is ok or child abuse.

I grew up in an abusive family but because I didn’t know anything else I thought it was normal. My parents loved me but had big parenting problems.

I suggest that if you are being threatened with or in DD you tell people you trust (parents of friends, teachers, police, child help lines, whatever …) and ask what they think.

Normal family discipline (eg getting grounded) is common and nothing to keep secret about.

Are you expected to keep DD secret or are you allowed to tell anyone you wish?

If the answer is ‘secret’ then this is evidence for DD being child abuse – even though it may be well intentioned.

Additional comments from Darlene Barriere - Webmaster:

While I don't disagree that the requirement or need to keep the discipline "secret" is a reasonable measuring stick to determine if the method, in this case diaper discipline, being imposed may be child abuse, unfortunately the authorities and child protection agencies do not see things this way. For more on this complex issue, please refer to my article titled Diaper Discipline, Child Abuse and Secrets on this site.

Aug 09, 2008
RE: Further Thoughts on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

Hello?

Was just thinking more about how pre-school age "diaper discipline" caused me to end-up becoming a "full-blown" "Adult Baby" since age 28 (now age 50)

:-(

It is sad, that as a mildly developmentally disabled adult, I much of the time "hide myself away" in my bedroom of the family home, & just "mutely" play with my soft plush animals & baby toys, ect., "wearing just a diaper & a vinyl juvenile-print bib", each & every day, when not going out doing chores around the house, or yard, or going on errands for my elderly Dad who never abused me & my 46 year-old younger brother, who was "never diaper disciplined".

Not funny, being "damaged for life" emotionally.

Only way I "feel" "loved & wanted" "in this world", is just "hiding myself away", & "being a baby", & "wishing" to be "locked-away for good" in an "institution" with other developmentally disabled people, & "confined to a steel crib", to be "helpless & cared for by others".

Many "real" babies are loved & wanted, but when I was a baby, toddler & preschooler, "I was not loved or wanted" by my psychopathic Mom.

Feel like a "freak"...sort-of.

Wish others, would "understand", that my "Inner Child" to use the psychological term, is "permanently fused" "on the outside" into my "very core" psychological makeup.

As an adult, I always experience "terrible fear & trepidation", every time "Amber Alerts" go off.

As an "adult survivor" of child abuse (Neglect/Physical/Sexual/Emotional), I am @ my age of 50, a "hyper-protector of children".

Thomas

Aug 10, 2008
people do know
by: ronald f

thomas people do know and do care thats. why i streated this tread. i wanted people to be able to hear the affect that diaper discipline has on a person. there is a right and a wrong way to discipline a child. i'm not against discipline. but i will not set back and let children be abused and not speak out.

Aug 11, 2008
Thank You Ronald
by: Thomas

Just got back to the Kelley Library here in Salem, New Hampshire to read my e-mail from my contacts in the autism/asperger's syndrome disability community online.

I can say, that my profoundly scarred Inner Child, "fused" on my exterior, is slowly starting to heal.

My own disability social worker/couselor in Derry, New Hampshire has been working with me these last 3 years, to "accept", my being an Adult Baby, & live the rest of my life, as best I can, as a "retired" adult on SSDI.

This morning, I experienced "genuine" happiness, while doing a couple chores for my elderly father, & between doing chores, mutely playing with my child's wooden railway toy trains, that I put together in the Den room of my family home. My own younger "normal" brother, as a person, just "wants me to be happy", & f I need to "play like a baby/toddler", I am free to do so, all alone by myself.

As I said before, my mentally-deranged Mom "wanted her very own 'living' baby dolly", & through Diaper discipline, she "got her wish".

My next SSDI cheque is coming soon, & other than paying my own "adult bills", I have to use it to purchase disposable diapers/underpads, diaper rash cream, baby wipes, ect., because I have no bladder control whatsoever, since I was 28 years old, & now in the last year, I have also mostly lost total control of my bowels. Daily, I barely make it to the toilet, but many times, I totally mess my diaper.

:-(

Grown-up/Baby?

Well, diaper discipline, creates a "spilt" in one's psychological makeup. When not an adult, I "act like a baby", & when I am not a baby, I "act like an adult", albeit, one, who has a cognitive socialknowledge/experience capacity of a child, due to the neurological deficits of Asperger's Syndrome.

Thomas

Aug 25, 2008
The ends do not justify the means.
by: Chad

Diaper discipline is sick and abusive. Even if it helps the child be more well behaved it is not worth it given the long term psychological damage that it causes. "The ends do not justify the means." In my opinion humiliation is on the same level as rape in terms of the emotional damage that it causes to a person. Any parent that would practice this form of discipline is either a sadist, or has absolutely no emotional intelligence and is extremely lazy and does not want to deal with the problem in the way that a responsible parent should. Any parent that would do this should have their children taken away from them.

Sep 01, 2008
Thank you.
by: Anonymous

My boyfriend was researching infantilism because of my tendency to act like a child sometimes, when he discovered the topic diaper discipline, and this page in particular. I have little to add on the topic except to say that I agree that DD amounts to abuse, that much seems logical.

I just wanted to say thank you to those who have taken the time to share their stories, your transparency and honesty will help to break the barriers of ignorance and denial in society that allow attrocities such as this to continue.

All the best

xxx

Sep 02, 2008
Further comments on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

Hello Everyone!

A further thing to add, is that one only has to type in "Adult Baby" or "infantilism", & one gets "deluged" with "Soft Porn" websites with stories of "diaper discipline, real or "imagined".

Since males like us are "hard-wired" in utero for darn fetish behaviors, having "Diaper Discipline" used on us, just opens up the "floodgate" to being an "Adult Baby/Diaper Fetishist" later in life, post-puberty.

Being autistic with asperger's Syndrome, with added "Adult Baby" behavior, is not "curable".

As I said before, one ends up being what the "CSI" tv show crime guys call a "freak", as depicted in the episode, "King Baby", which got CBS network fined for "indecency".

Thomas




Sep 21, 2008
Diapering as Discipline?
by: just a guy in Michigan

Great idea "if your child misbehaves" emotionally abuse them and risk scaring them for life! In what world lacking common sense and ignorant parents would this be an acceptable form of discipline?

I found this link and as an adult that was in youth subjected to a similar mental abuse as a child, was reading about the physiological effects of such treatment. I've toyed with fetishes and read about many others that have the common theme of an abuse having the affect of giving the one subjected an "unnatural or uncommon attractions" to the things or situations that stem from such events. In short "a traumatic experience" even if the parent in their ignorance didn't expect a lasting effect. If you read about fetishes, you'll see how many likely stem from childhood abuses, those that "enjoy" Infantilism, or being treated like an adult baby, those that have what others would consider freak attractions to stuffed animals or "furries", balloons, being submissive in a Sub/dom relationships , and the list goes on. My point is that the mind of a child sometimes takes a traumatic event, mental or physical abuse and the pain or humiliation of it, if not buried in the subconscious, or forgotten, may even resurface as a fetish as a manner of coping.

We as adults are a sum of experiences and how we choose to cope with those that were stressful, and although disciple is of course necessary, diapering someone to prove a point that you can physically or mentality dominate them, is simply cruelty and risks psychological damage.

If you search for fetishes, you'll no doubt find one for nearly anything imaginable, forums that support the activity no matter how "uncommon or unnatural", and a lot of emotionally scared people out there that pursue their attraction to fetishes simply because they felt alone or alienated in their behavior, only to realize that like fetishes there is also no end to the number of people that were abused, to those that will continue to abuse others, and of course those that will do everything possible to profit from it.

If you're considering punishing your child in such a manner that you have to ask others if it's acceptable, your answer should be your own common sense if you ask yourself if you honestly believe that if YOU were humiliated or abused it would make you a better person.

If you're reading this post because you have an uncommon fetish,you can choose to explore it, its psychological origins, discontinue it and not let it be a controlling factor in your current or cause for lack of relationships and essentially "re-program yourself" if you feel that you are somehow a slave to its pursuit.

Take this with a grain of salt, as I am also of the opinion that variety is the spice of life, and exploring new ideas, even if not completely mainstream, can be fun and life is short, as long as it doesn't harm another person and your partner is willing to give it a try.

Sep 21, 2008
Positive Results?
by: Ray

Good letter Michigan! Sometimes I read things that support diaper discipline and quote some story where it "worked." Lots of things seem to work but are quite destructive without being immediately evident. I like analogies. The Atkins Diet will work. It will accomplish weight loss but it has no regard for your physical health. It is an acidic diet that poisons the human body. In ancient times people drilled holes to release "evil spirits" for the mentally ill and some people got "better" from the treatment. How about they got better in spite of the treatment and not because of it. For any of you parents that think diaper discipline works or had some positive result on your child, think again. Whatever behavior benefit you got from it made your life easier and not your child's.

Sep 22, 2008
RE: A lot of good points made here!
by: Thomas

Just wanted to say, that a lot of "good points" have been made here on the subject of "Diaper Discipline".

One can also say, that "Diaper Discipline" is a major factor in development of "Infantilism/Adult Baby Behavior" in adulthood.

Using this as a means of discipline, "always makes a mess", & not just in the "child victim's" diapers he was "forced to wear" & urinate & defecate into - like a baby by his (or her) parents.

Thomas


Sep 25, 2008
A few things here.
by: JAB

1. I don't condone this form of discipline by any means.

2. I am an Adult Baby. I am a woman. I didn't have this discipline done on me. I did have a father who was not great and I'm sure that somehow led to me being who I am today. I don't hate who I am though. I think Adult Babies are perfectly okay when the person has the right kind of mindset. I am a fully functional adult. I work full time, go to school full time. I am married to a man who does act in a parenting role at times with me. I think it's a healthy outlet for myself, considering the alternative things that could have happened to me. I wouldn't change it for the world. Then again, I have a realistic view on the whole subject. A lot of ABs don't, unfortunately.

3. I know a lot of other ABs and I MUST point out that the majority (I would even say 99.9%) of ABs do NOT in any WAY WHATSOEVER condone doing anything to/with minors. They don't condone parents abusing minors. We are very loving people who are considerate of other people. I did bring up diaper discipline to other people I know b/c I accidentally stumbled on it and it made me sick to my stomach. A lot of the people who do these sites do not condone people who are adult babies or have a diaper fetish(there is a difference. ABs are not always doing it as a sexual thing. It's not sexual for me). Yet, they are creating children who will engage in the behavior. It's bad news all around.

4. While I may be an AB, I am one for a reason. I didn't get the type of parenting I should have as a child and seek the love and affection I missed out on as an adult. It helps me be an adult. I do love myself very much, but it is a rough life and it is difficult for other people to understand you and it is difficult to be yourself around others. I would never wish that someone would have to feel like that if it is avoidable. Some people get this way not by abuse and that's fine, but abuse does help trigger this type of behavior. I don't feel it is conducive to a teenager, especially since this is a time where sexual likes and dislikes are developed. It could totally go wrong.

Sorry if it seems all over the place. People do get confused about people involved in my lifestyle and we are not at all into disciplining actual children or anything with actual children. We feel like children ourselves and understand that need to be safe, so we would never ever wish that upon a real life minor.

I hope it makes sense. I'm not that great at expressing myself on such a sensitive issue here.

Note from Darlene: JAB, I'd say you did a great job expressing yourself. And you showed a great deal of discretion, too.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir

Sep 28, 2008
thank you jkd
by: RONALD F

you expressed you self well. and i would like to thank you.
the pareting we recive as children make us who we are. if we are showed love and shown how to behave, thats how we act. if we are shown abuse that how we act.
as far as the sites i refure, to one is about using diaper discipline on boys ,the server is in New York it belongs to a male diaper lover group. i have not been able to see what they are about it's in german group, from the pitures, and what little german i know i would say its a gay diaper site. the other site is run by a man in the us . he is a ab/dl he doses not say this on his site. but if you gobble his name you can find his post, at other sites . there use to be a site called diaper and spanked kids. his posts show up there. he was real abuse to then. he hab a web site were he would invite the children who were in diapers to . his own private site. the sign up page was hiden so you had to have a invite. he has been called a child molster on the web. if darline wants i will give her his name so she can check it out her self.
now back to the subject we learn from our parents, some times its what we do not learn that we go looking for it took me years to learn that. i do not belive a person has the right to abuse children . yet its going on, its not in the open, you can not go to the site and see, if you could it would be closed. you can ask for a invite, and they will probliy give you one. but they use a forum software , they use whats called group, permissions. ist not a open site, they control what you see, this way no one finds out what is going on. some of the kids tried to start an other site. were the abuse was not alowed. but it did not go over , i belive is is now closed. i tried to start a fourm site were they could come to for help. i invited the fbi, the local dhr office (you know it as child protivice services), and the local sheriff , to be part of it, yet i got no one who would help. if i could get law enforsement, and people who could give the children help, i would get the forrm back up. but it would take more then me and a few kids to do it. like i have stated before what are we going to do about this abuse. its good that darline has a site were we can come and tell about absue. but is it time as parents we step up and say enough, i relize that there, are all scort of sites were a parent can go and get advise. the diaper discipline site is one .
we have the frist admendmet right to free speech in the US. but what right do these children have, none as i see it. its not only children in the united states, the boy i talked about was in the uk. i know of children in france, mexico. canada, al in the uk. there parents all come to this one web site for informatin. if you use the locking plastic pants they can only be got from one company. its in the same state as the man who has the diaper discipline site. both web sites share informatiom one would think that there is a link
RONALD F

Oct 01, 2008
To Ronald F...
by: Thomas

Hello?

You have quite a few good points made.

I have myself seen some of the web pages of "predators", disguising themselves as ABy's.

Makes me hyper angry as an autistic adult & ABy, since I have always been a hyper-protector of children.

Even as a 50 year-old adult, I can tell you, that due to diaper discipline/sexual abuse, whenever I have visited my primary care doctor, who has had to "examine me", I have up & let out a "wail of terror", when my doctor (a female), has had to undo my adult-sized diaper & plastic pants during physical exams.

Also have seen, that some online suppliers of incontinence products for adults, also cater to Infantilists/Adult Babies.

Difficult to live with myself being an Adult Baby, but I just "hide myself away", & always pray, that children, do not get diaper discipline done to them.

As I said before, Have always intermittently felt like a freak, & a "very bad boy".

I say, go after the "predators" posing as Adult Babies...

Thomas

Oct 04, 2008
It is torture
by: Steffy

***Comment removed by Darlene Barriere - Webmaster***

Note from Darlene: Steffy, I removed your comment because I have a strict policy about including website URLs and email addresses in comments. To do so in the post you left on this diaper discipline thread would be to encourage my visitors to visit such sites, which would effectively give such websites a vote of confidence from my site; I will not do that. Thank you for your understanding.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir

Oct 04, 2008
Juvenile Probation's view
by: Anonymous

Here is the bottom line folks. SOME of this MAY have happened in the 1950s.... And many of those children, now in thier 50s and 60s are the same fetishests (victims) that still continue to domonate the vast majority of these discusssions.

But as a former Juvenile Probation Officer, I CAN tell you this: If ANY of this type behavior with REAL children came to lighttfo most ANY state Probation Officer, your child WOULD be removed imeadiately (if temporarilly) until an official child service/welfare autority fully investigated the alligation. And upon any subsequent finding of probable cause, your child would remaiun in state custody; and you would INDEED be charged and arriagned under existing Child Abuse statutes. This would be a FACT in most every US state, not to mention almost every other modern/western cililization througout the world. All the rest is bull crap grouned in sexual fantasy, real or contrived.

Oct 04, 2008
Some cases
by: Anonymous

From the crazy discipline site:

Eighteen year old girl still accepting being diapered and naked to her parents and locked in sex toys plastic panties

Guy whose name starts with W straitjackets his daughter and double diapers her (ieven ball gags the child)

Phd lecturer actually diapers his 10 year old daughter without his wife's knowledge

Oct 04, 2008
Right On
by: Robert P.

Finally, someone sees through some of this fantasy mumbo-jumbo. What started out as an attempt to educate caretakers not to use this form of discipline has turned into just another AB/DL forum. I'm sorry this is happening because there are enough AB/DL sites for that. What this site is aimed at is preventing abuse, not a place to explore fetish fantasies.

I took the chance and exposed my life experiences with much reluctance in hopes it would really make a difference. Again, I say this is far more than just abuse. It is the destroying of a childs self image and future developements. PLEASE keep this in mind and don't use this site to air your fantasies or fetish dreams. Some of you are being truthful but others aren't and they know who they are. Those of use who really went though this humiliation can tell the difference in how you express yourselves.

Oct 05, 2008
could the person contact me
by: ronald f

is there a way for the person who was a juvenile probation officer be given my email address . i would like to talk to them. there is one site i would like looked in to. it may turn out to be a bunch of bull. then it may not. if its not then some thing will need to done in a legal way. i can tell the differne between a ab/dl story. i strated this to inform parents not to be taken in by the group that promate this type of punishment. i do know of a few cases were it has been used. and i would like it checked out.

i went looking on the web for parenting ideals . i have looked in to a lot of subjects . then i went to see who the people were that was giving the advise.i would not be so vocial if i did not fill that it was real .
ronald f

Oct 13, 2008
would you tell
by: RONALD F

i would like to thank those who have shared there stories. most people who have had diaper displine used on them do not want to talk. about it. most do not. i speak up for the children, because they do not. most are told that they deserve the punnishment that they are reciving . they do not have any place to turn to. i tried to give them a place on the web but i have shut it down. i could not get them the help that they needed. no one took it serious. so i have tried to bring light of what being done to them. most people when i tell them about it think, im talking about a porn site. this group has had a web site for a good number of years. it started out as a way for parents to share information about the use of diaper displine on there children. it has turned into more then that now. but no one will belive that it. goes on. i do not know how many children it is used on. i do know that the web site had over 300 members when i looked to see what it was about.i belive what the young folks told me. i wish they would speak out. but would you, risk it, knowing if you were found out ,things would get worse for you.
thats the big question would you tell. think about it. were are they to turn. there is no real law. there is a law about spanking a child. every state has one. darline do you know places were they could turn to get help. think about it .

to darline how do you fill on the subject. i can give you the e mail address of a young person she said she 18 now 19 she and some others treid to start the other web site. she has tried to help the others. i will let you form your own ideals about what needs to be done

From Darlene: Ronald, you've approached me about this before. My position on the matter has not changed. I offered you space on my site to take this cause on yourself; you declined, and I respect that. I would appreciate the same respect with regard to my answer. I have all I can possibly handle with this website and the way I operate it. Please understand that.

I thank you for thinking of me as a conduit for change with regard to diaper discipline with children.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir

Oct 21, 2008
Rights of the Child
by: Adrian

Note: I admit I am a ABDl (no horror stories or anything.. just became interested in it) but, like most of the people in this community and the world, I am dedicated to the protection of children. I just stumbled across this diaper discipline and was horrified that children are put through this. This "discipline" (sadistic punishment can't really be called discipline) is at complete conflict with the Rights of the Child.

I also believe that these sites are just the more depraved and disgusting ABDLs and it completely sucks that people would associate my lifestyle choice with... these... things.

I did a quick scan of the CRC document to find these breaches.

However, it has to be noted that the US has not signed this document.

Principle 2
The child shall enjoy special protection, and shall be given opportunities and facilities, by law and by other means, to enable him to develop physically, mentally, morally, spiritually and socially in a healthy and normal manner and in conditions of freedom and dignity. In the enactment of laws for this purpose, the best interests of the child shall be the paramount consideration.

Article 8
2. Where a child is illegally deprived of some or all of the elements of his or her identity, States Parties shall provide appropriate assistance and protection, with a view to speedily re-establishing his or her identity.

Article 16
1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.

Article 31
1. States Parties recognize the right of the child to rest and leisure, to engage in play and recreational activities appropriate to the age of the child and to participate freely in cultural life and the arts.

Article 37
States Parties shall ensure that:
(a) No child shall be subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment

Oct 23, 2008
you would think
by: ronald f

you would think that people would want to protect children. i have read the childrens rights artical i have a copy of it printed out, in this country children seam to treat children like they are proptery. they have no voice to speak out. i know how these children fill. i say that as one who has been forced to wear diapers. if a parent does not want the child they should be able to give them up no questions asked. in some states you can give up a baby. in one state there it does not state a age limit and some children as old as 14 have been left at a hospital.the united states has a long way to go in the way some of its children are treated.
because children have no voice i fill i must speak out for them ,
dariene i was not asking you to take on the battle about diaper discipline . i was just asking if you would check into. people seam to daught that it is being done as i say it is.

Note from Darlene: Thank you for clearing things up, Ronald.

Dec 12, 2008
I wear nappys and I am 49
by: Anonymous

my dad and mam always put me in nappies right till the day I left home at 24 because I could not aford to leave before then.

I would nearly everyday get a nappy spanking and corner time, I was not a bad girl but it gave them pleasure, and if I did what they said they did not charge me board, but it was so hummilating to be put in a nappy and sent in the corner. If in the corner I had to use my nappy and wore a nappy everynight for bed the results are my fear and need for nappys for sercurity.

Dec 30, 2008
xd that dont happen to me
by: Anonymous

im a 16 year boy and i would never let them put me in diapers. Yes they can be stronger but accidents at home can happen say what u want to say but i can do that and i know that i dont mind what u can think

Jan 24, 2009
STILL HERE
by: RONALD F

Still here I,m still fighting for the kids. I have had to step back. And regroup. When i was coming up diapers were used in place of being spanked. They did not leave any black and blue marks.
There was a group that did diaper discipline but it was not what this group is promting. It was tried as a way to help familys. It was done under a mental doctor care the familys that took part in the program had to go to what was called a sestion were they talked to the doctor the childrens mental health was watched. And no one was abused

Now there is a person who is a ab/dl. That has a web site to promote the use of diaper discipline as a way to punnish children. His site is set up were you have to be invited to be on it. It is set up in forum style. Were users are given group permissions. They only see what they want you to see. They are real carefull in just what you see untill they fill you can be trusted. They have a chatt room were you can go and ask questions. They will tell you haw well it works and that it has no long affect on the children. The children can come on and post why they are being punished. I have been able to talk to some of them. On a diffrent site that is now closed. The children tried to start there own site were the parents would discipline in a caring loving faction.
They did not put up with abuse, on the site. When i say children i mean young people 18 to 25. They treid but it was no go.
It is hard to get people to change how they think. They do not take time to be a family, they punish children in stead of teaching them. They seam to think pain will make children behave????
This diaper discipline group is about child abuse the group that prmotes this discipline is about child abuse it plain and simple. It is away for a man and a small group of people to talk to children and help put them into diapers. There is no councial sections the childrens mental health is not checked. In fact the when asked they say its up to you. Just put the child into diapers it will make them behave. Thers is more that should be said and i have not figured out how to do it. I would like to find a way to get this group looked in to. I have found places like this you can tell your story. But there seam to be no people who want to help our even look in to this group.
I know the affect it has on the children. Yet no one seams to care.

Feb 17, 2009
Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

No ifs or buts about it, it is child abuse. I was ten years old and my mother was mad at me again. As always this ment my sisters diapers and rubber pants, and a trip to the corner store and back. This was to show everyone that I was bad and acting like a baby.To this day I do not talk to my family under any circumstances.I still have dreams about waking up in humiliating places , such as at work wearing only diapers.

Note from Darlene: Thank you for sharing your experience, Anonymous. Doing so may well help others who have gone through something similar. It might also make those who incorporate such abusive methods in the name of discipline re-think their abusive ways.

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Feb 17, 2009
Just a quick observation.
by: ten year old diaper punishment victim

Why do a lot of people that have had diaper punishment turn to diapers for comfort? It seems that a lot of the paticipants on this subject have turned back to wearing diapers to escape.When I was ten and mother would diaper me for punishment sake, I was so humiliated and could barely face myself in the mirror in our front hall.That was part of the punishment to stand and look at my diapered condition in the mirror. When all that was done I would be marched down the street in just diapers and rubber pants for all to laugh at and to ridicule. The children in the neighbourhood were merciless. I can quarantee that I don't go back to diapers to escape the memories.

Feb 17, 2009
Robert P. only too right.
by: Anonymous

I have seen over the years with this subject that it almost always turns into an AB/DL forum.Can't we put our little fetishes away and contribute some usefull help or sugestions with out parading our sexual desires. Damn folks there are kids out there being scared for life. If the people want to dress in diapers for fun or escape fine but don't fit some young person into a diaper for the sake of correcting some petty misbehavior.Try it out yourself first and see how you like wearing diapers in front of the world around you.

Note from Darlene: Robert, I make EVERY effort to ensure this forum will not turn into a fetish forum. Comment don't go live until I've read and approved them. In fact, I've deleted at least a dozen posts here to ensure it NEVER turns into a fetish forum. But fetish IS a child abuse effect; so I would appreciate it you would refrain from posting reprimands to others who comment here. If I believe this thread is leaning too far in an unacceptable direction, I will close it down for good. meaning that no one will be able to leave comments here. Thank you for your understanding.

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Feb 17, 2009
oops!
by: Anonymous

Darlene I must apologize for my reprimanding ways and take responsibility for my posting.Robert had nothing to do with this, I was simply agreeing with his posting earlier.I get my Irish up when this subject comes to the forefront for discussion.Even under the care of a Professional I become very upset when it was sugested diaper punishment was a good therapy for a misbehaving youth.So please do forgive me.

From Darlene: Thank you for clearing that up for me, Anonymous; apology graciously accepted.
And my apologies if I misread your true intent. You might like to know that I no longer allow posts that extol the "virtues" of this form of abuse; I delete them outright. I can understand how you would get your dander up. My position is now that I will not permit anyone to post anything on this site that promotes violence and abuse. Period.

And my sincere apologies to Robert; I obviously misread the post and confused the title with the name.

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Feb 17, 2009
As a result of diaper discipline
by: Anonymous

As a result of my own diaper/nappy punishment around the age of nine years,for wetting my bed I developed a diaper fetish I THINK ...? I find comfort in wearing diapers, although I do not need to have sexual relief when wearing them, I do however sleep a lot better and I never want to face the real world the next day. So, far from this site becoming a fetish site, I think that we should keep an open book here, as childhood trauma can have so many differing side effects especially in later life.

Feb 17, 2009
Apologies accepted
by: Robert P.

Dear Darlene,
I praise your work and intentions and would never question your integrity. I'm sure any reference to my name was meant well. God bless and keep up the great work. Hopefully it will save a child's future happiness.

Feb 18, 2009
To robert P.:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I thank you, Robert, for your graciousness. I didn't write this sooner because I had one foot in the door the other on the way out when I saw your message yesterday. I had no time to reply, so I decided to approve it to go live on the site and reply later. This morning has been an extraordinarily busy time on the site. It's been difficult to determine who to write to first. Just know that you've been on my mind since yesterday. I want you to know that I appreciate your patience.

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Feb 20, 2009
diaper hell
by: Anonymous

Well some people think it is [child abuse] i do i was forced int diapers at aearly age after abuse from my aunt and uncle they used to put rubberbands aroud my penis when i would wet the bed this did my bladder a lot of harm, i stillhave problems to this day,i still wear diapers because i cant hold my bladder because of the damage it did me ase a kid.i was put in a foster home they made me wear diapers and plastic pants from 9 till around 16 years of age, to bed to school, around the house so yes that really messed with my head

Feb 22, 2009
i hope
by: ronald f

i see people are sharing what has been done to them. it dose make me sad that it has been done. I hope we get the message out what affect it has on a child both short term and long term . i hope we can change any one mind that is thinking about the use of this punish ment to rethink and not use it
ronald f

Feb 23, 2009
another victim
by: D.J.

I know from my own exposure to diaper punishment it leaves life long memories and horors.To be diapered at an age when you should be long since potty trained and humiliated to your surrounding family and friends.This is a real blow to your comfort and support group.That loving and allways dependable nest of security is never to be the same.I have done the therapy thing with a lot of very expensive Drs.and therapists and the hurt never seems to go away.I hope any parent who looks into the use of diaper punishment,stops and gives it a lot of careful thought.Put yourself into that situation and ask how would you like it?We have alot smarter children these days, than when I was nine years old. As parents we should be able to reason and agree with the kids to correct the misbehavior or at least work towards it.How putting a child into a diaper is going to help,I can't understand that logic.At nine years of age I was put back into diapers and baby pants for the summer holidays.My mother would take great pleasure in exposing my diapers to everyone,including all of my friends.

Feb 28, 2009
diaper punishment
by: Anonymous

no its not allthough some people are affected by it the rest of there life and turn into adult babies and diaper lovers like me

Note from Darlene: With all due respect, Anonymous, it IS abuse. You're living proof of that.

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Mar 01, 2009
not abuse
by: ronaldf

to anoyomous
you say it's not abuse, how bo you figure? is your ideal of abuse it leaves mo marks to be sean its not abuse.what about what you do not see. the act of putting a diaper on a child, them making them use it as if they were a baby. what effect do you think this has on a child. the group i'm speaking out about belives you take a child put them in diapers, you put locking plastic pants over them then you teel the child thats how it will be untill they are out of school. to school they have to wear pull ups, how do you not figure it is not abuse alot of the children have not did any thing wrong. there parents heard about a way to keep them out of troble so they were put into diapers for there own good. if you were 11 our 12 and you were forced in to diapers what would you do? when i go to the web to look for information i look at the scoure were the information comes from. i looked in to who the people were that were giving me the information. IT MADE ME MAD WHEN I SAW WHO WAS GIVING OUT INFORMATION ABOUT CHILD DISCIPLINE A ADULT MALE WHO IS NOT A PARENT I FOUND BOTH HIM AND HIS WIFE TO BE ADULT BABY DIAPER LOVERS.
HE GOES ONTO SITES LOOKING FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE SAY THEY ARE BEING DIAPER DISCIPLINED AND INVITES THEM TO HIS PRIVATE SITE FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE DIAPERED DISCIPLINED. I HAVE SEEN THE POST AND I HAVE COPYS OF THE POST.
gooble is a good tool you can find out a lot about a person . it kept in the data base for a long time.
now you still think it not abuse. i have been on the reciving end . yes there is no physal pain . but have you had to go out in the yard and play while wearing just a diaper. our have you had to wear a diaper to school for wetting the bed. think about it

Mar 15, 2009
I understand some things
by: ronald f

I know that children need discipline . but there is line were discipline becomes abuse. no parent our any one else has the right to step over that line. I also under stand that some time diapers are used for medical reasons. the parent should talk to the child and explain why and help the child to under stand why they need to be used. i have had friends who have had to wear them i'm not going to say they liked it but they under stood why.
i did a lot of research into child discipline the last few years. i have looked into spanking, corner time and a lot of other ways to discipline a child.
i still do not know the secert. i do not belive that there is any one answer. i have looked in to the people who wer telling me how to discipline.
i grew up in a time were children were spanked, there was no such thing as a light spanking.
they were ment to get your attention.
there were some other punishment left over from the old times. diaper punishment was one of them
but it had its limits by that i mean there was a starting time and a time wer it would end. there were rules to it.
this group that is on the internet has no rules
that is why they are behind closed doors. they do not want the public to know whats going on.
there was a site started by the young folks you had to reguestior . but any one could. then you saw what was going on. with this group it is not so. you can ask to join . they may let you have limited prigles on the sight . I saw a lot of what would be called abuse. there are a lot of thing you can do to discipline a child. i found a lot of them had had diaper discipline use on them and they were looking in to it for that reason. they would say how it helped them to behave. they did not think about how it felt . to be forced in to diapers all they would say is it did them good to be in diapers for a while. maybe i'm missing some thing, for i remenber how it felt . so i fight the use of it the way this group uses it . i have said that most of these parents need to be treated in this fashion. but that may be the problem . people discipline there children for the most part the way they were.

Mar 16, 2009
The other side
by: DJ

Reading over the comments with a near and dear friend.She was surprised about what I had posted about my diaper discipline, and how it bothers me still after many years. She related a very similar experience of her own when she was young and was troubled with bed wetting. She too was put in diapers at night and was not tormented about the cause of her diapering. She related to me her mother kept it as a special little secret between the two of them.Much to my surprise she says at times of stress she will wear diapers as a little escape from the stresses of life. all within the privacy of home, and not for any fetish or sexual gratification.I suppose I have answered my own question here. Her diapers were used as a tool to correct a problem and not as a discipline.My friend says she uses them as a comforting lounge wear and not for their designed purpose.

Mar 16, 2009
Great Point
by: Robert P.

D] makes a great point. Diaper discipline is not the same as being put in diapers for practical reasons especially when administered with love and caring for the child's feelings.
Diaper discipline is usually done in a humiliating, demeaning way. I believe it is the shame and humiliation that causes the most harm. To be degraded, possibly even to the point of having to deliberately use the diapers, is to tear at the child's self image. This form of discipline (abuse) is meant to belittle the child, not correct behavior. The perpetrator is most likely driven by the power and control they feel over the child. Deliberately debasting a child in ANY WAY IS child abuse. Unfortunately its difficult to prove especially when done in the guise of correcting behavior problems.
D]'s mother kept her daughter's condition a secret out of respect for the child's self dignity. That makes all the difference in the world.
My heart goes out to all of you who have suffered under diaper discipline for I too have felt its life altering pains. God Bless all of you and know you are just as valued and special as anyone else.

Mar 22, 2009
Diaper discipline IS SEXUAL abuse
by: Jigglypuff

I believe diaper discilipine is sexual abuse for the following reasons:

It involves the genital/excetory regions, and like child rape and sexual abuse, it is very demoralizing and scarring.

If Diaper discipline is continued for a prolonged time, then the child can has a chance of delevoping paraphilias in adulthood. Some of you adult babies probably inderstand what I mean.

I believe that anyone who encourages diaper discipline in a sexually abusive manner must be punished.

Apr 06, 2009
GOD HELP US
by: Richard

im 52 seeing all these 50 yr olds diaper discipline must of been populor in the late 50 and 60s..its not good to be put in diapers against your will,,I forgive them that did this to me,,they thought it was best? and it was I was a heavy bed wetter but with two older and two boys younger and a baby sister it was hard and it has called many many problems in my life the only way i make it ,is to hang on to JESUS..IM ALONE WITH NO CHILDREN even if you do it for bed wetting or medical dont throw in humiliation public displaying, punishment or physical abuse...by what ive read so far people does care and its very impossible to get help with these adult babies it is a hard life,,but do not involve the innocent the children GOD BLESSES

Apr 06, 2009
GOD HELP US
by: Richard

***Removed duplicate post***

Apr 10, 2009
I just happened to drop in on this page....
by: The Wanderer

I feel that I needed to spread my own thoughts on the subject. I do not claim to know everything about abuse, nor do I claim to have any personal experience in the matter. I simply study the reactions of those who give them, and nothing more.

This subject in particular is a very controversial one. When I say controversial, I'm not talking about how the traumatized zealots wage a PR campaign against the fetishists.

Over the several psychologists I've consulted on the subject, most of them agree that this type of punishment in particular is very situation specific, and should not be used without express approval, for fear of mentally distressing the individual.

The idea that this can be classified as child abuse, or not child abuse, is not something that will remain constant through many examples.

For instance, a in his teens, let's say, is average in behavior, but has parents that treat misbehavior in a radical manner, or parents that are psychologically distressed. Either would apply to this situation. Diaper discipline would almost certainly lead to child abuse through the form of distressing mental abuse, and quite possibly physical abuse, if brought too far.

I personally will not make any claims as to what situation would this discipline NOT be considered child abuse. If you must really know whether or not it is abuse, the only way is to get information from, and conduct the punishment under the supervision of a registered psychiatric professional. Only after it is approved by said professional may I believe it is okay in said situation, with said punished individual.

In most, if not all cases though, I believe that there are much better alternatives. The risk of negative psychological impact is so high (just under 100% of individuals who experience Diaper Discipline), that it should be substituted with other methods.

Now that that is said, if anyone would like to contact me on the matter, I specialize in psychological reaction and human ethics.

Apr 10, 2009
To The Wanderer:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for your thoughtful response. You'll note I removed your email address from your comments above. In order to ensure my visitors stay safe, I have incorporated a strict policy about the inclusion of email addresses and other identifiable personal information on this site, either in comments or submissions. I thank you for your understanding.

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Apr 11, 2009
to the wander
by: ronaldf

I agree. To me there was never any question about it being abuse. There was a doctor who did try to use a diaper thepary in the 1960. I do not know the out come but you no longer hear about it. My goal was to bring to light the affects of the use of it, that the so called diaper discipline has on a child. there is no question that it is abuse. I was doing reasearch on child discipline and came across this group. I had fromed a forum were the children could come and talk I was working on trying to get law enforcement involed when it went down. I have finley gotten the forum provider to look into the matter. I have started to form a parents group with its own forum to talk about abuse and to try to help children WHO ARE BEING ABUSED. There is one group on the web that promotes this form of discipline as a cure all for your child a quick fix . I have been trying to let it be known that this was abuse and the affects of using it on a child. It,s a by invite only site, what they do and say is behind closed doors. the local sherrif office has not been able to look at there site. Even if they were able they would not see whats going on. The group uses groups permission on the site were you are put into a group and given permision to view only what they want you to see. They do not let you see the member list untill you have posted a set number of posts to be sure that you are not trying to shut them down . I have tried to be verbal on many fronts as posible to let the affects be known .I would like to talk to you . But that would be up to the web master on this site.
You have to probe that abuse is going on . Its not enough to say they are telling parents how to do the discipline. If they do not see it our have reason to belive they can not do any thing
Ronald

Apr 15, 2009
Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

I can say as a 50+ year old male that diaper discipline is why I'm a diaper fetishist also. At the ripe age of 9, my babysitter on a dare landed me in diapers.

At the time, it was demeaning, and demoralizing. Thankfully she never took it to the next level and told my mother or took me out in public.

But from the time I was 9 to approximately 12, anytime I was babysat by her, I was diapered and the bathroom was pretty much off limits.

I can't say it made me a better person, humble or even less rowdy. I can say that after years of psychological therapy, I'm comfortable with who I am, but still not completlely satisfied with how I turned out.

ANYONE that submits a minor to this type of treatment should be criminally and civily liable for the adult outcome. Anyone that thinks it isn't abuse in the first degree, is themselves an abused individual.

For those of you going to flame, before you waste your time, energy and electricity, DON'T bother. I've been attacked by the best and worst.

A minor, pure of heart and mind, SHOULD never be subjected to adult punishement.

If you want to use Diaper Discipline on a consenting adult, GO FOR IT!!!

But, children and innocent adults (developmentally disabled) should not be humilated and subjected to such treatments for any reason.

Do I enjoy wearing diapers? That's not any of your business.

Would I ever want a child to wear a diaper for me?
NEVER, absolutely NEVER EVER EVER.

Am I a pedophile? NO I'm an adult with a psycho-sexual deviant behavior fetish called Infantilism.

There have been cases of pedophiles infiltrating this fetish gendre' and taking advantage of teen AB/DL's and that's one reason why quite a few chat programs ban anything mature as far as diapers discussions. AOL has probably one of the oldest and longest running chatrooms and it's only available if you know the name of the room and how to get to it, but it's not a publicly available room, to keep pedophiles and minors from finding it.

CompuServe and Prodigy from years ago had age-play rooms and the few ruined it. So many fetishist are selfish, self centered and egotistical to think a partner, female or male should just fall head over heels in love with them, because they wear diapers.

Most of look ridiculous wearing them, but they make us feel good, but we should never think that we're educating or bringing a child into maturity by using diaper discipline...that's not our job.

They'll learn soon enough and that's part of the process of growing up!

...just my .02 cents

Apr 15, 2009
To Anonymous who posted Apr 15, 2009:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

You don't EVER have to worry (or even think about) being attacked on this site; I would not, and do not, permit disrespectful posts or attacks against my visitors. No posts go live until after I've read and approved them. This is a safe place for abuse survivors to share what happened to them and the effects of what happened to them, both in childhood and adulthood. This site will ALWAYS be a soft place to land for people like you, Anonymous, who have the courage to share their stories here.

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Apr 16, 2009
Diaper Discipline
by: Al

My brother and I were occassionally diapered disciplined when we were growing up. It didn't happen often (every few months or so I guess) and usually didn't last long (three weeks was the longest I ever got). We got punished like this right up until we finished school. I never really thought of it as abuse. We'd get it for low grades, or having attitude, or not doing what we were told. If we had to go to school when we were being punished we had to wear training pants and plastic pants unless we had PT. The rest of the time we wore disposable diapers and plastic pants. When we were diapered we were treated differently: we weren't allowed to watch TV, use hot water in the shower, speak without permission, eat with the rest of the family ... just sort of stuff to make you feel you were being punished. And it meant you got hit alot too for no reason. After a couple of days in diapers the backs of my legs would be blazing red and I'd find it hard to sit down. I've talked to my brother about it since then and he has alot more negative feelings about it than I do. He doesn't get on well with our parents. I get on better with them but think sometimes they were too strict.

From Darlene: Al, the effects on your brother are far more consistent with this type of so-called discipline than you may realize. Diapering an adolescent for discipline is emotional abuse that can have serious lifelong consequences. Whether you see it that way or not, what your parents did to you and your brother WAS abuse, and on much more than one level. That doesn't mean you can't have a positive relationship with your parents; it means you need to understand what your brother is going through.

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Apr 16, 2009
Diapers a tool or child abuse?
by: Just DJ again

We have had so many comments of good experiences and bad ones dealing with diaper punishment.I have to give some respect to the people that have admitted out right to being diaper fetishists. I know that I could never divulge that info.My friend that read my postings about my diaper punishment was very open about how she wears diapers as an adult stress refuge as such.Her diapers were her and her mother's secret to control bed wetting.It was a warm secure little place between two loving family members ie: the tool.She very much loves her mother and holds no ill feelings from her experience with diapers into adolescence.In comparison I was not a bed wetter and did not need diapers for any of the justified reasons for diapers.They were used as a brutal attack on my self image and the visual image as I was paraded about in diapers.To be ten years old and have a very angry mother diaper you in the front yard of your home For all to laugh at and then lock you out of the house in just diapers and plastic pants.I can honestly say I know how that fly feels that gets swatted with a sledge hammer.My sledge was a diaper, and the very cruel children of the neighbourhood.A short film brings a lot of this pain back into my heart.It is Redemption by M.Bryson it is on the net, please do not have your children around if you do look at it.There should be no question of this being child abuse or not.One other little rant my friend offered me one of her diapers to try,I could not even attempt to put it on,I'm 6 ft.2in. 245 lbs and afraid of a diaper.More counselling for me.

Apr 18, 2009
one question
by: ronald f

i have some forums i use phpbb3 for them. i had a forum were children could come to that were being diaper discipline. i had posted about it on one of the diaper discipline. i had a few users on it . they could come and talk tell how they fill. if like some would have you belive that diaper discipline is not real, them you would think that this site would not be a treat right. well this site ended up being high-jacked. some how my forum was replaced by an other one. we have a new forum were any child who being diaper disciplined can come. we will give them support and try to get them help. we will see what happens. the housing provider is looking in to what went on with the forum that was hi jacked. we will find out who what and were. when i frist started to speak out about diaper discipline i had no ideal the can of worms that i was opening up. i have found that this group does not want people to know what going on. they want you to belive that the storys. are not real. that way no one will look in to what really going on . and what they are doing to the children.if it's not a real group why would my site be attacked? to the point that even i can not get into it
ron

Apr 19, 2009
Diaper Discipline
by: Al

Thank you Darlene for your comment on my posting of 16th April. My brother was diaper disciplined more often and more severely than I was so I do have some empathy with his point of view. The issue for him is not so much that he was diaper disciplined but the withdrawal of love that went with it. He finds it difficult to talk about and I have suggested to him that he reads some of the posts that are here, and perhaps post himself. When we were diaper disciplined at home it basically meant that you were almost excluded from the family. At mealtimes, for example, you didn't eat at the table with everyone else and you didn't get the same nice food as everyone else. If everyone was watching TV you had to sit on the floor in the corner facing the wall. You got loosely secured in bed at night and your bedroom door was locked. And you were constantly criticised and told off and spanked. I think that is what makes it hard for him in particular to have a relationship withour parents now rather than just being diapered.

Apr 20, 2009
my views
by: Anonymous M

thanks, for posting this i had know idea that these things happen. Well, i kind of did but not thought of it as abuse or all the effects. So thanks for informing me. Also, I believe it is abuse when trying to humilate child but when trying to use diapers as a helpful way to stop bed wetting and if the child learns that it isn't to make them feel like a baby again. Also, i think the best way to imform parents of what they are doing to a child before judgement on the parent. This discipline(abuse) is wrong and i am glad that people are speaking out o against it on here. i also want people to realize what ever parents or anyone does that make you feel terrible is not at all your fault no matter what. parents do what is loving and what would make your child loved. Any way what else may help is instead of putting diapers on or at school or what ever put in a extra pair of underwear on the child and/or in a bag or purse and not as discipline but to overcome public humiliation. Also advise the child to use the bathroom timely bases so that they avoid problems and always make sure your child feels loved and cared for and not a big baby. One thing a parent wants for the child is to grow up and not be a baby all thier life and make them feel the only way to live is to wear diapers.

Apr 20, 2009
part 2
by: Anonymous M

Note from Darlene: Anonymous M, I moved part 2 of your post to your original one so that it would flow better and make more sense. You offered some excellent suggestions/advice; thank you for that.

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Apr 21, 2009
darlene
by: ronald f

we are now working on trying to get some action done about the diaper discipline site. i have found others that were trying to do the same as i was. i hope that we are able to do some thing this time . just telling you.

is there any site were these children can go to for information, i know its hard for them to talk about the subject , it's been 45 years and i still fill people will judge me because i was punnished in that fashion i still do not talk our tell much about it. it's one of those things you do not want any one to find out about. i realise it was not my fault. but still after years of . i'm not sure how to put it it's one of those things if people have not been there they would not under stand.

i know you must speand a lot of time looking at post. i do not know if any one ever thanks you but they need to.
i know the kids can come here and post. they can come to my site if they can find it . i hope you have looked at it. we are open to suggestions . we want to make it a place were they can talk, with out being judged and share stories and give each other support.
THANK YOU . YOU DESERVE SOME ONE SAYING THAT
I REALISE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HELPED BY YOUS SITE. i belive i understand why you do it. it's the same reason i try to help the kids . they just deserve more lets keep them in our prayers. and pray that the lord provides the way to help them
ron

Apr 22, 2009
To Ronald F:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Firstly, Ron, thank you for the thank you. I do spend a great deal of time reading posts, since I read every single one of them to ensure they are appropriate, supportive and/or validating in some way. At this point, there are thousands of them on my site, which means I cannot respond to all comments. I am making an exception by replying to your request. Please understand that I cannot keep an ongoing conversation.

You asked if knew of any websites for children who have experience diaper discipline...I do not know of any that are specific to their situations. As self-serving as it may sound, the best place is my site, because what they are experiencing is a form of child abuse. If they are worried about anonymity, I'm VERY careful to ensure privacy.

Yes, I went to your site some time ago, and I wrote you a very long email giving you pointers and some advice, as difficult as that advice may have been to read. I did not get a reply back from you, so you'll understand why I won't do this for you again, Ron.

I know you care about these children. I know you can relate to them on many levels. And I think it's admirable and commendable that you are turning your own personal pain into power by helping these kids. When all is said and done, we are both working toward the same goal. Stay vigilant toward your goal. You are an advocate for these children, Ron. And by being an advocate, you are giving purpose to what you lived through. We both are, in our own ways.

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Apr 22, 2009
never got your email
by: ronald f

From Darlene: Ronald, I'll keep what you wrote here just between us. Just so you know, I sent the email last July (2008). For some reason, I never got a mail delivery failure on the email address I used. I'll re-send the email through the new one you've provided, but it will have to wait for a day or two. It is a very very busy time for me.

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Apr 25, 2009
Still here
by: Ronald F

I'm still here fighting for the children. I have taken note of whats been said to me and will put it to use . Most every one , Has told there story . So may be it will help if you know mine. I wet the bed untill I was 10 I believe thats when i stopped. Being a bed wetter ment I was a babby only babies wet the bed which ment I had to were diapers. My sisters and me did not get a long . I had 6 sisters they liked to see me getting punished. They found that they could control the bath room. One would come out one would go in that way I would wet my self then they would run to dad and tell him I had wet my self. Then I would be put into a diaper and told how much of a baby I was. I use to try to get even and hit my sisters. Now My family is of English decent. The English use ,to use a punnishmet called petticoate punnishment. A boy never hits a girl. A boy that hits a girl is considered a sissy . So that ment I must also be a sissy besides being a baby. So now besides having to wear a diaper ,I also had to wear a dress it was a short one it all most covered the diaper, a babys diaper was suppose to show. It could not be hidden. When I started school most of the time I had on training pantys with plastic pants over them . After I started school I had problems reading and wrighting. I would get the Letters all turned around. When I started to learn how to spell I did all right as long as the word was recited to me but when I had to look at the paper to learn it I put the letters in the order i saw them in. SO at that point i was treated as a sissy baby who could not learn. My dad treated me that way most of the time it was after I was in my late teens that he learned of what my sisters had done. This is why I speak up for the children. It is one thing to be punished if you have done some thing wrong. But to be disciplined because your parents fill it will keep you out or trouble. I just fill I have to speak up
and say its not right
Ronald

Apr 25, 2009
To Ronald F:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Ronald, you were very brave to share your story here. On this site, you don't EVER have to be ashamed of what you lived through at the hands of a deeply disturbed family, the effects that abuse had on you, or of the fact that you are dyslexic. Some of the most intelligent people I know are dyslexic. You are the epitome of turning pain into power. Keep up the great work!

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May 12, 2009
It certainly seems like it
by: Anonymous

I am a 27 year-old male, and I consider myself to be an ab/dl. I also have Asperger's Syndrome, Tourette's Syndrome, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder.

I never underwent "true" diaper discipline, but I did recieve some punnishments during my early childhood that may have led me to be an ab/dl. My mom was a single parent working in the cardiac care center of a local hospital. I was frequently under the care of baby sitters. I remember one very clearly whom I was under the care of at the age of 5. She would frequently place me in a highchair when I was "misbehaving." Once, she even placed me in a crib in a darkened room. I never told my mother about this, but I remember that I stopped being under the baby-sitter's care shortly after the crib incident.

I feel that diaper discipline is not a good idea, and certainly could be a form of child abuse. It could lead to an ab/dl mindset, and while I am not ashamed of who I am, I wouldn't wish it to be forced upon others.

May 13, 2009
ITS BEEN BAD
by: Anonymous

Hi im a 52yr.old male and you can tell whats real and not,,,60s they didnt think twice to put you in diapers-wetting the bed ,diahuaria...folks i was another (damaged by this treatment)..lost my childhood sweetheart, she left when the baby in me wouldnt leave...im single now for 30yrs no children no women in my life....even as a child if they dont wanna be diapered dont do it,and dont babytalk them with embaressment,it has not tottally destroyed me..Just let me say with the help of JESUS im surviving.and you that are not being truthful on this site someone is watching you!!my mother diapered me with love but with two older and younger bros and lotta kids in the neihbour hood ,it wasnt easy,its been bad,thanks

May 18, 2009
I believe it is
by: Nicole

My sister and I both had very weak bladders, something the doctors tried to cure with medication. We inherited this hindrance from our mother, who eventually had surgery done to reinforce the muscle. My sister and I didn't have that option growing up though, as the doctor insisted on us being "grown" before we considered surgery.

As a result, both of us would often wet the bed until I was twelve or so (my sister is four years younger than I), and we would frequently have accidents during the day, whether we were laughing or coughing or just running really fast to catch a football (sometimes I wouldn't even be aware I was having an accident until it showed in my pants, depending on how distracted I was).

My mom was more or less understanding, but she still would get angry when we'd have an accident after not making a trip to the bathroom for a couple of hours at a time: "Why didn't you just try?!" But for a little kid to run into the bathroom every hour to see if she has to go the bathroom... it isn't likely to happen, and even if it did, the other kids were bound to tease me (not that my self-esteem wasn't ripped to shreds from having accidents in school). Eventually, it got to the point where Mom was asking both my sister and I if she was going to have to buy diapers for us before we bought the family out of house and home with a giant water bill from all of the laundry we had to do. Mom never made us wear diapers, but implying that she would (and guilt tripping us) made us feel awful, and it really didn't affect what was a medical condition in the first place.

And then there was my dad. He didn't threaten us with diapers, but he did spank us and/or put us in time out almost every single time we had an accident (with the exception of when we wet at night, although he would get angry and accuse us of drinking too much water before bedtime, even if we hadn't drunk anything since a glass of milk for dinner). He would punish me for something that I couldn't often control, and it made me feel helpless and hopeless... it took a long time for me to build up my confidence again.

It's also affected my outlook, my sexuality even. I've developed fetishes over the years; when I started puberty, I found I had this growing fascination with what it would be like if my mom did finally make good on her guilt trip and buy diapers, and now... there are just so many things I'm unsure of, whether or not I was actually a victim of abuse, for one. I love my parents, we have a good relationship now and my sister and I get along great with both of them, but I still look back on when we were kids and wonder if maybe she and I might have endured consequences that we hadn't actually brought upon ourselves.

Sorry if this isn't relevant to the argument, as diapers were never officially used as punishment, only as threat.

May 18, 2009
To Nicole:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

What you shared is relevant, Nicole. Whether or not you were forced into diapers, the threat of such a humiliating "discipline" for something you could not control had deep repercussions for you. And even if the diapering threat had been made for disciplinary purposes on behaviours you could control, it would have left you deeply affected. I don't believe your parents were monsters or evil, but they were terribly misguided and lacked understanding. I sincerely hope that parents who want to use diapering as a form of discipline stop dead in their tracks and think—really think—about the severe emotional consequences that can and will result with their children. Perhaps sharing your story here will help prevent a child from suffering the repercussions you and others on this thread have suffered. Thank you for sharing, Nicole.

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May 20, 2009
Ashamed
by: Anonymous

well i for one think that diaper discipline is child abuse, i went through the nightmare,at night, then 24/7. then in front of family, friends, with cloths on then it went to just diapers and plastic pants, at home no cloths, along with if you act like a baby you get treated like a baby the whole way, bottles, pacifier,rattles, baby cloth came next sun dresses,rompers,after this stepmother sexually abused me by fondling me in front of my stepsister by showing her how to change a diaper, and putting plastic pants on me. im seeing a doctor now

From Darlene: Your stepmother is the one to be ashamed, Anonymous; not you. She humiliated you and emotionally and sexually abused you. None of that was your fault. I do hope that seeing a doctor now will help you deal with all the repercussions of being treated so cruelly by a woman who was only interested in controlling and manipulating her precious stepson. You certainly deserve that kind of help.

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May 21, 2009
Helping
by: wetone

Darlene thanks for the kind words,working with the doctors,and theripist is helping, but its still hard to think that a person with a nurses, and doctors degree would do something like this, to a child, the doctor im going now says that thats how the systm handled some of the issues of bed wetting in the 60 and 70 is this true, is he just covering up for his profestion. david

From Darlene: I just happened to have a couple of minutes to reply, David. Generally, I can't since I have thousands of people who visit daily, and many submissions in queue awaiting my approval and comments. To answer your question, yes, it's true. However, the diapering was what was condoned by the profession. Your stepmother took it way beyond what the "professionals" deemed acceptable even back then. But even back then, this form of what professionals have referred to as "regression therapy" was controversial. In a phrase though, it was wrong on so many levels. Knowing that now and understanding how terribly wrong it was—IS—can be the catalyst for healing from the effects of such deplorable treatment. I wish you all the best in your sessions, David. You've certainly earned some healing.

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May 22, 2009
Empathy for others
by: DJ

I feel for the people that have had to bear the humiliation of diaper discipline. Wetone has had a lot of the same treatments that I had to endure at nine years of age, and they are very cruel.My mother exposing me to friends and neighbours in my ridiculous attire was horrible and very demeaning. As I have mentioned in my earlier posts I too am in therapy for my lack of self worth and depression. What; to this day still bothers me is the voluntary ridicule that people would seem to love to poke at me. As weather permitted mother would parade me down the street diapers and plastic pants and usually just a t-shirt.The neighbor ladies would have fits of laughter and offer diaper changes and baby sitting all in baby talk to humiliate me.They really did not seem to care about the devistation to my self worth that they were doing.I know we are in a modern world now and it is not 1962 anymore, but how can people be so uncaring about the feelings of others.I hope in this day and age people would speak out and get involved with the differant agencies at our dispossal today and save the child. And for that matter save the parent that had to resort to this type of discipline.You would think that something like diaper discipline happened in their past to make them react this way.They too could be victims,crying out for help.

May 22, 2009
To DJ:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I'm with you: I have NEVER been able to wrap my brain around any adult purposely humiliating and laughing at a child in the name of either discipline, "toughing them up", or any other possible reason. I can only hope that we've learned some lessons along the way.

Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this with my visitors and me, DJ. I do hope you find a way to deal with the repercussions of what was done to you.

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May 22, 2009
I have been reading the posts
by: Ronald F

I have been reading the posts, It still makes me sad when I here of others, that had to go thru diaper punishment. It makes me mad when I try to bring up Whats happening to the children out there, yet no one will listen. We have a copy of the posts from one of the web sites were the parents tell how they are punishing the children, and why. We also have the parents email address. We have every post off that site. Yet we can not get any one to look in to it . It is sad to think that no one is interested in helping . They could at least look in to to see if it is real or not. For any of the young folks that may see this I would like to let you know there are people who do care. We are trying to help . Just have not found a way to do it yet. We are trying. We will keep on trying. We do care and we keep you all in our prayers.
Ronald

May 23, 2009
To RonaldF
by: DJ

The circumstances that allowed this form of punishment to come to the forefront obviously was there. We as caring individuals and informed adults that need to do get involved with the way people act in these situations. Don't be a bystander get in the faces of these people who are devistating their childrens self worth.Child Services, Churches, Educators, and even the Police if required. As for the web sites they are just a periah that prey on the perverse nature of our presant society. They will wither and die if we as a society change our thinking and reactions to this deviant form of punishment.

Just a short P.S. to Darlene; Thank-you for getting me talking about this subject it has helped me to set up a treatment.I am entering a treatment facility next week to deal with my self worth issues and depression. I am not sure about the treatments I will be reciving but I am going in open minded and willing to be a participant.

From Darlene: I'm very proud of you, DJ. We can't change what we don't acknowledge. You've taken both the first and second necessary steps: acknowledgment and willingness to participate. But as proud as I am of you, YOU should be very proud of yourself. Keep taking those steps, even if you find they are baby steps. They will lead you to the top of where you really want to go.

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May 24, 2009
Thank you dj
by: Ronald F

Thank you DJ . I wish you well, and hope you new therpay works. Thank you for what you said.
I have never given up In my life. And never will.

I have looked at most of all the Posts on this site . I do get sad about some of the punishment that have been used on children.
Most of the time you can tell if a person is for real by the way they write. There's is only one post in this tread that I wonder about. It was a two part one. Were the writer was telling about why diaper discipline was not being used.
The thing the makes me question it is he used dd for diaper discipline. There is only one site that I know of that uses this. And that's the one that I,m speaking out about. Every time there is a tread started on a site about diaper discipline some one writes in the same manter that it is made up and not real.
They are well spoken and are well written . They are use to using words. I took the time to get to know some of the young folks on that site. I read there posts. I could see the hurt, in how they wrote. Some you could tell that they were made up. For the most part I think what they said is true. Its a closed site . They had to post what was being done and why.
I went on that site saying I was looking to see if I needed for my children. A young lady came on and took me how bad it was and that I should not use it. You could hear the hurt in her voice, I could almost fill her hurt . I asked If there was any thing I could do. I have tried to tell her that we are trying to help . Unless you are a treasted member you can not send messages to the young folks.

On face book there is a student group that is speaking out, about the use of this punishment. Like me they have gone to CPS , law enforcemet and the FBI.
All That happened is that they got laughted at. No one wanted to take them serious. I know how they fill IF you can not get on a site to see what its about you can not do any thing about it. We will keep on trying untill we get some thing done.
Ronald


May 24, 2009
To DJ:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

My apologies for mistakenly placing Ronald's name instead of yours in my last comments to you. I certainly meant no disrespect. I've gone in and edited it to read DJ. Again, my sincere apologies.

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May 24, 2009
Joining group
by: wetone

i dont know if this is the same group that everone has been talking about, but i tried joining this group they said that i was mistaken and that my parents did not treat me like a baby because i wet the bed they treated me like that because thats what i wanted and said that i did not know what i was talking about,this site is for parents who have no other means to control there children are teens, not only bed wetting but other issues, plus why pay a fee to talk is beyound me, must be so that they can feal they gotthe answers they were seeking

May 25, 2009
What group
by: Ronald f

wetone ,I'm not sure what group you tried to join. There are more then one. I do not know of any that you Have to pay to talk. I do know the moderator of the one group, was working on a new forum based on phpbb. Not sure what it is about. They say they use it because the the children are out of control. Most of the ones I have talked to are far from that. If you child gets a B grade in school is that any reason to put them in diapers ? Most of them are just children. On the one site the children , You put them in diapers, lock the bath room and force them to use them. You put plastic pants that have a lock on them so they have to keep them on and use them. In researching diaper discipline, I have come across some how to on s&m. What is used on the children is a lot like that.
You diaper them till you break there will to resist. This is why I speak out. I wish there was a way for information to be shared about these groups. May be if we pool our information we could get something done about these groups. In this day and age you would think people would know better. I believe they do there are just a few, that. They are going to find a way no matter what. The one site makes it seem like it will change your child. It also said that in the first few weeks they will cry and resist. That is until they learn it is for there own good, They even say you should start before your child gets out of control. Just put them in diapers it will head it off and keep them out of trouble. Like I said most are just children.
Ronald

Jun 09, 2009
Forwarded From Other Page...
by: Anonymous

Hi,

I added this post from the previous one, because I look at this as a little different than "punishment". Its more like laziness, or neglectful, than it is punishment. Please see below...

On three separate occasions, my ex-wife has sent one of my children home to me in a diaper. In each case, I discovered this because he has left his clothes in a heap on the floor when he changes into his PJs (typical boy! :)). He is 5, and has been fully potty trained since he was 3 years and 3 months.

When I asked her why she did this, each time she said he had diarrhea and he could not hold it. He does not normally have this condition, so this is not a case where he is either incontinent or a consistent problem. In every instance, I informed her that this is not an acceptable alternative, and instead we need to encourage him to listen to his body, and prepare for going to the bathroom, especially on short notice. He has never had an accident with me.

His response, every time I asked him about it, was humiliation. You could see in his eyes that he was obviously embarrassed that he was wearing one, and each time he says that he had an accident and his mom asked/told him to put one on.

I don't know if this is considered abuse or not, but I believe that, at the very least it's bad parenting. Neglectful would be my thoughts, but I was wondering what others thought...?

Jun 14, 2009
IT'S SAD
by: Ronald f

Its sad to think a parent would treat a Litte one like that. But its happens all to often. It does make me sad. I would of responed sooner. I have been working on some thing. I do not know If I will be able to help. Why do people not want to believe that this happens. The really sad part is no one call tell me what the law is. I still try to help, but it seams one one will listen our they do not care I'm not sure witch one it is.

From Darlene: Ronald, no one can tell you what the law is because there is NO law. No law can be that specific. That's part of the issue here. When you first asked me this question, I answered it based on the definition of child abuse: that is the only basis for which there could be any kind of legal action. The challenge is the fact that even child abuse definitions aren't standardized. And even when they are, authorities, including judges, allow their personal biases to interfere with what is in the best interest of the child. Another problem is that emotional child abuse is virtually the most difficult of the abuses to prove. I do understand your frustration...it's the same frustration I feel with ALL issues relating to a lack of real action when it comes to any form of child abuse. Each day I read of at least one more child killed at the hands of a parent or guardian. And when I read of such tragedies, I'm disheartened to learn that in the vast majority of these cases, the child and his/her parents were known to child protective agencies, but the agencies failed to protect the child. So yes, Ronald, I do share in your frustration.

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Jun 20, 2009
a new term
by: ronald f

I learned a new term today its called ritual abuse. The diaper discipline that the one group talks about seams to fall under this heading. They force the child into diaper . Change them only two times a day. Once in the morning the other at bed time. Getting a diaper rash is part of the discipline. They make sure the child stays in the diaper by using locking plastic pants on the child. We will see if we have any luck in helping this time.

Jun 23, 2009
We really need to forgive our parents.
by: Anonymous

In my case parent, that used this cruel and unusual form of discipline on me. I have had six one on one therapy sessions now for my self worth issues. From these sessions I can see the diminished capacities of my mother and maybe why she used diaper discipline on me. Not trying to cover anything up for her but trying to understand why she used these horrific things against me, I was only eight years old. I was routinely diapered and displayed in diapers to all for the humiliation factor I suppose. Mother would save up little breaches of my behavior until the punishment dam burst, then out would come the diapers. Early 1960s so there were diapers,rubber pants and a t-shirt, and that was it. Quite often she would drag me outside to the mercy of the kids in the neighbourhood. The other kids and even their mothers where merciless with my teasing and humiliation. I even had one of mother's friends pat my bottom and say he is wet. While mom and a few kids stood and laughed at me, her friend gave me a diaper changing on the front porch. For that breach of the rules I had to stay in diapers for a week day and night. Night at home was not bad, but grocery shopping the next day in just my diapers was hell.Many of mom friends would pat my bottom and talk baby talk to me. Well I'm sorry for dwelling but as you can see I am still having problems with this. Mother I do forgive you, hope you can hear or read this. My mother drank herself to death in my latter teen years.She had been ingesting large quantities of alcohol and prscription pain medications for years. Maybe that is why she became a loon.

Jun 24, 2009
my seeings of odd punishments
by: fluffy

***Deleted by Darlene Barriere - Webmaster as inappropriate***

From Darlene: With all due respect, Fluffy, your comments were highly inflammatory, and do not belong on a thread that is intended to show just how diaper discipline IS child abuse. You have shown absolutely no regard for any of the contributors with your comments. I have therefore removed them, with the suggestion that you read the more than 100 comments left here, many of them from full-grown adults who have lived all their lives with severely negative affects from having been diapered for discipline.

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Jun 29, 2009
What should I do?
by: Nosey Neighbour

We have a seven year old lad living next door to us. He is a typical boy and just great fun to talk to. Yesterday leaving the house this young lad was in the middle of the front yard sitting on a blanket. I didn't really notice until I walked out to our driveway, he was wearing baby diapers. The old fashion kind with rubber pants and diaper pins. I drove to work and phoned home to my wife, she said he is still there 1 hr. had passed. When I got home that evening my wife told me of the goings on of the day.The lads mother came out a couple of times an hour to check on him and even changed his diapers right there in the yard.He was also given baby bottles of water to drink. At differant times of the day there would be quite a crowd of kids laughing and jeering him over his diapers. O.K. this is diaper discipline now what can we do about this? I went over to ask as a caring neighbour and was told to f''''' myself and to mind my own business.

From Darlene: All you can do is report what you've observed to Social Services. Whether or not they will act is another matter, but report it nonetheless as cruel and unusual punishment. And if you don't get anyone to listen, escalate to the supervisory and then management level. This mother needs to learn about appropriate discipline. And if she's doing this in public, the question I have is what is she doing in private. What she is doing to this child should be criminal, even though it likely isn't.

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Jun 30, 2009
We tried, and it left us outraged.
by: Nosey Neighbour

The police and Child Services told us it is not againest the law to diaper your child. We have heard from some of the other ladies in the neighbourhood, expressing their concerns. Seems this has gone on for a number of years with a couple of the children in this family. One lady told us that the young man has been seen at the local park in what looked like dirty diapers. We tried and our system, they will not act unless a law is broken. I guess we don't put much store in a broken spirit or mind. One of the ladies had a sugestion to grab this mother and diaper her in public. But of coarse that is againest the law! Give her some of her own medicine.

From Darlene: Sadly, I'm not surprised. What will need to happen is for psychological studies to be conducted in order to truly show the damaging effects that this absurd form of "discipline" has on a child. Law enforcement and Social Services may believe the law isn't being broken by this woman diapering her child, but law enforcement and society may well pay the price as this child gets older and becomes an adult member of society. Emotionally abused children often turn to a life of crime; but it's emotional abuse that is the most difficult to prove. It is so easy for Social Services to say no laws have been broken, rather than investigate for emotional abuse. But when we turn our backs on those who need us most, they may well turn their backs on US when WE need THEM most. You didn't turn your backs on this child; of that you can be proud. But the fact that you and possibly others have confronted this woman, perhaps something positive will eventually connect with her. You aren't a "nosey neighbour"; you're a caring one.

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Jun 30, 2009
More info from our neighbour.
by: Nosey Neighbour

Had a very quick conversation with our diapering neighbour. Seems this attack on the young man next door was recomended by a Doctor. This direction was given to the mother to help her son to act his age. What is this world coming to if a Doctor gives information out like this. Put your son back in diapers and humiliate the H!!! out of him to make him act his age. How about your oath not to do any harm there Doctor.

From Darlene: THIS doesn't surprise me either...sadly. But one must remember that physicians are just ordinary people; and as ordinary people, they come with just as many prejudices and absurd ideas as the next person. Medical science is a soft science, but even still, medical doctors don't necessarily agree on what does and does not do harm. In other words, doctors need to learn every bit as much as the rest of us when it comes to the emotional well-being of our most precious in society. They simply do not have all the answers. And if they give an answer that somehow seems ridiculous or appears on the surface to be advocating something that can cause emotional trauma and severe humiliation, then we must use our own judgment and toss the answer exactly where it belongs: in the trash along with all the other garbage.

Perhaps you and your wife can now be an advocate of sorts for this little boy by befriending this woman and thus helping her to understand what her actions will do to her son. Perhaps you and your wife are there precisely for that purpose. Without offending, of course. Thank goodness for people like you.

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Jul 05, 2009
little boy
by: ronald f

What this mother did was so wrong. I will not try to defend the doctor . I do belive he said to put the child in to diapers . It was the mother who choise to put her son on display. for the public to see . Does she not love her son. It would of been one thing if she would of done it in the house. But to put him out in the yard like this it is uncalled for.
Would of answer sooner. Still working on some thing. What needed is a way to report supceted abuse. That That one may encounter on the web . I realise a older child in a diaper would not be called abuse.
But I was talking to a women about diaper punishment. She was talking about using bleach on the diaper to make the child have a bad , I would call it a burn,she said rash. There ideal oF diaper punishment is the child gets changed two time a day. once when they get up once at bed time. They want the child to get a rash. to the point were it red and a open soore. I still can not get any one to listen. I did save that im.
Ronald

Jul 09, 2009
Don't kid yourself!
by: Ian

There is a very difficult line between child abuse, physical or mental when it comes to diapers. I used to soil my pants right up until I was nineteen years of age. I recall my father repeatedly threatening to put me back in diapers when I was about 6 years old, but he never did this. I?ll be honest with you, he really did think he was doing this for my own good, and I know today that he does regret his rash approach in trying to shame me out of a situation I had no control over, though never speaks of it. Strangely despite my fear of ever being found out that I soiled my pants by anyone outside of my direct family, I later became fascinated in diapers, around about the age of 7 or 8. I actually tried to get people to force me back into diapers, but never anyone close to me. I wore them in secret, stealing plastic pants and cloth diapers from washing lines and hiding them under a loose floorboard in my bedroom. Now don?t get me wrong, I absolutely believe that punishing anyone by putting them back in diapers is very wrong, but how do you account for a child who actually wants this and does not have anyone or anywhere to turn to for advice or explanation? Before you start to wonder, yes of course I am part of the adult baby community, though a very secretive one, so let there be no misconceptions here. However my point is that I am pretty sure I am not 100% unique, and yes a lot of the claims about ?true stories? on adult baby sites are complete rubbish, but some of them are too close for comfort to the experiences I was placing myself into as a child. I realise that there are today many telephone numbers and organisations that children can turn to for help, but I can tell you this, even if I had wanted help, I would never have turned to any of these organisations. Why? Because as a child I was so terrified of anyone even thinking I might want to be treated as an infant, and of course the possibility of this leading to my pants soiling being revealed I would have certainly tried to take my own life. These organisations are fantastic things and I applaud them, but all the reassurance in the world that no one will ever find out will never convince a naive and frightened kid. Was I scared by my father?s threats? I have no idea, but I can assure you all, I wanted to be diaper punished. I wanted to be forced back into infancy. I wanted to act and behave as an infant from the age of 8 years old or so. Call it nuts, call it insanity, deny the chances of this being true if you like, but sometimes some children need to have their own fantasies because for some reason this is all they really have. BUT DO NOT DIAPER PUNISH YOUR CHILD IF THEY DON?T WANT IT! Talk to them and find out what their problem is, think like a child would think and take the time for God?s sake to understand what they are telling you. Don?t make assumptions and don?t put words in their mouths, listen to them and try to learn something about the person you are responsible for.

Jul 21, 2009
still here
by: RONALD F

I'm still here still working on what needs to be done. It seams like our friends at the diaper discipline site read this tread also. So I will not post a lot of whats we are working on for now. They have started to charge a fee to be a member now. I belive this is to keep people out who just want to look. There are some things in the works. Will talk when and if it works
Ronald

Aug 03, 2009
Was just told
by: RONALD F

Hello every one I just got a email about a site a friend has been working on. It's now on line. It's an anti diaper discipline site. It tells the name of the person who has the diaper discipline site and were he is located. It goes into detail what the children are subject to. From what I under stand this mans family and boss, does not know he is a diaper lover our about his site about diaper discipline for children. I belive thats about to change. Soon any one who Googles diaper discipline will know about him. And what he's up to . There are other things in the works.
Ronald

Aug 30, 2009
Baby Sitting
by: Anonymous

When I was about 14 or so I used to baby sit for this family. They had two girls and one boy, one day the parents asked me to spend the whole day watcing the kids. The boy was eight at the time, the girls were four and six.
When I showed up at their house, the mother brought me into the living room and I saw the two girls sitting on the floor watching tv and the boy sitting in a play pen and the only thing he has wearing were diapers, rubber pants and a t shirt.
She then brought me into the kitchen where there was a wooden high chair, and on the counter were several jars of baby food and a bottle warmer, in the fridge was 4 or five baby bottles filled with formula.
When I asked about all this I was told he was being punished and was to be treated like a baby until they decided otherwise.
I of course was young and did not think it my place to quesion them, so I spent the day watching them treating the boy like a baby as his parents instucted me to.
Surprisingly the boy did not fight me when I was changing his diapers (which included a couple messy ones) and if his four year old sister wanted to help, as her mother said she could I would let her powder his bottom while I held his legs up in the air by his ankles, and when I fed him which was three jars of baby food for his lunch and dinner the six year old would help me feed him. I would also hold him in my lap while giving him a warmed bottle of formula, burping him afterwards, and in all this he didn't complain.
This all happned a number of years ago and if I knew better back then I would of said something, but I didn't because they were the parents.

Aug 31, 2009
Baby Sitting Cont.
by: Anonymous

To continue, even though I came to understand later on that it was wrong at the time I did not see it that way. I was hired to do a job and the parents gave me specific instructions, I was to treat him like a baby, and they told the boy that he had better behave himself, and they were not to hear about him giving me any trouble. Their warning worked because he gave me no trouble either while I was changing his diapers, feeding him, or giving him a bottle.
As the day went on I thought him not as an eight year old boy, but a baby. I even played typical baby games with him, such as when changing him I would play this little piggy with his toes and blow raspberries in his tummy which would make him giggle, and when feeding him I played here comes the air plane as I spoon fed him the baby food his parents told me to feed him. He ended each feeding with a messy face, and bib.
At the end of the day there was one last messy diaper to change then I gave him a bottle, burped him put him to bed, then his parents came home.
I regret deeply my participation now, but at the time I'm sorry to say I enjoyed myself.

Sep 03, 2009
Topics around the office
by: Anonymous

Since we read your site and the comments that people have contributed, many people have shared their stories.One of the contributions came from our mailroom manager she had a cousin who had committed suicide at a very early age.We cannot directly relate this to diaper discipline but it makes you wonder.At the young lad's birthday party at the age of eight, all his friends gathered around him when he was opening his gifts.There was one fair large package with open me first on it.Well the young man ripped it open to find a package of larger than normal cloth diapers and a number of pairs of plastic pants.At this his mother with the help of his two older sisters diapered him in front of all his friends.He was left standing in the middle of his birthday wearing only diapers and plastic pants. All his friends where howling with laughter and teasing while his mother tormented him for being a bed wetter.We where told that a lot of the kids and mothers that attended the party left after scolding the mother for the hideous thing that they just inflicked on this boy.Two years later the boy emptied the medication cabinet and was found dead of an overdose.Now we know this might not have been the cause. But maybe it could have been the evidence of a problem that could have been stopped if only some one got involved. A lot of the people in the office thought it was just a spetacular story for story sake until we saw an old very tattered picture of a very distressed young man in diapers and a party hat that our mailroom manager brouhgt in.

Sep 03, 2009
To Anonymous from "Topics around the office" and "Baby Sitting":
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

We'll never know why that young man took his own life, but there's every chance that such humiliating discipline factored in. So very sad.

And to "Baby Sitting", you did what you thought you were supposed to do. At 14 you wouldn't have known better; you honoured the parents' wishes. You can't fault yourself for that. I gather you have come to understand the inappropriateness of using such disciplinary practices; and for that you should be very proud.

I thank you both for sharing your stories here.

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Sep 04, 2009
UNCONTROLLING THOUGHTS
by: gurubaby

To have no control,even when you least expect it .I will admit that the drug paxcil has helped.the fantasy of visions that engulf my mind is tremendous at times,but for me knowing JESUS helps also..I live with this single lonley,childless...lets say ive been damaged..DIAPER DICSIPLINE IS WRONG...THANK YOU

Sep 04, 2009
Baby Sitting (follow up)
by: Anonymous

In my last post I said that I had enjoyed myself, I enjoyed taking care of him that day. I was instructed to treat him like a baby, which I did, but in doing so I did my best to be as gentle and tender with him as I would with any other "baby" I had looked after.
When I changed his diapers I would play with his toes and blow raspberries in his tummy which would make him giggle and laugh, and when I was feeding him he would turn his head away as I was trying to get the food into his mouth and he would laugh while doing this as if he was enjoying himself, of course he probably wasn't to fond of the pureayed carrots, strained peas and other baby food I was feeding him, and when I gave him his bottle he was calm and relaxed while nursing the bottle and afterwards while I was burping him.
I came to fully understand later on that what happend that day was wrong, but at the time it seemed he had as much fun being babied as I did babying him.
I guess, maybe, it was his way to cope with what was happening to him.

Sep 20, 2009
Most current situation
by: Victoriah

This does not to me appear to be abuse (the most recent babysitter story). Why? Because you yourself tell us he was enjoying it.

That said, without knowing all the specifics of the situation it seems impossible to really know for certain. Assuming all facets told us to be true, we only know what was told to the babysitter and her own short time of being with the children, which is considerably little.

From Darlene: Victoriah, with all due respect, it does not matter if the child seemed to enjoy it, it was indeed child abuse. It does not matter what the circumstances of the story were, the fact that this child was put into diapers as the age he was at IS a form of emotional abuse because by making him be a baby all over again, these people treated him inappropriately for his age. I suggest you read through the information pages on this site, in particular, the emotional abuse pages.

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Sep 21, 2009
in response
by: ronaldf

Just because the boy smiled and laughted you seam to think the boy enjoyed it.
Think about it like this. You are forced to wear a diaper. You are made to use the diaper like you were a baby. If you refuse you are held down and made to wear it. Have you ever been spanked untill you could not take it any more and given in. If you continule to refuse you are tied to the bed. The parents will get locking plastic pants so you can get the diaper off . If you refuse to use the diaper you are given a enama then put in the diaper. Then you have to wear it all day. You are fed cookies with exlack baked in them. so you have no control. So how can you not say its abuse. The diaper discipline becomes your life style. If you gooble diaper discipline what sites do you get? These are the sites most of those children can go to. The parents check were the child has been on the web.
Just to be sure the child did not tell any one one whats going on. I know of one group the children started to be able to talk to each other. It has become over run by adults that should not be there. The parents use that type of control over those children. Have you ever thought about what would happen to a child who told and it got back to the childs parents.
There no way for the child to get out. People see a child in a diaper the turn there back and look the other way. The child will not tell. and if they did who would listen? People do not belive it when a child tells. If the parent had spanked the child there would be marks. The reason diaper discipline is used is becaue it leaves no mark on the child And the parents can make it as hard as they want.
Think about it this way. You are a child you have just been told you were going to be punished with a diaper. your parents undress you put you in a diaper. and just a tee shirt. you are given a bottle to drink from you can not touch the diaper. You are not alowed to ask for a clean diaper. You have this dine in front of your family.
You still think its not abuse?
ronald

Sep 21, 2009
To Darlene
by: Victoriah

Darlene, with all due respect, as I said - we know very little about the situation. Was he treated like this all the time, or not? Was he just being silly? Was he in fact someone who liked being treated like a baby and they used the story that he was being "punished" to cover up? Was he special needs?

Not having been there, and not having any opportunity to talk to the parents let alone have any insight into his day-to-day life, it is dangerous to try and force every story into a one-size-fits-all mold and say it MUST be abuse.

Sep 22, 2009
To Ronald
by: Victoriah

Ronald, I did not say that there is no case in which Diaper Discipline is abuse. I specifically stated that I was talking about the most recent example that the babysitter related to us. We simply do not have enough of the story to be able to judge.

From Darlene: Victoriah, this will be the last time I comment on what you're saying. But I cannot point out strongly enough that you have mis-read what was written or misunderstood what was written. The babysitter clearly stated the 8-yr-old was being "punished". This WAS diaper discipline, which IS abuse: emotional abuse. There was no mention of any extenuating circumstances such as disabilities, etc., but even if there had been, it is inappropriate to discipline children by regressing them because of the emotional repercussions. You seem to have made a judgment based solely on the fact that the boy was "enjoying" this, but perhaps what is not understood is the eventual emotional toll such discipline will take. I concerns me that you seem to accept diaper discipline as acceptable in certain circumstances. Again, diaper discipline IS emotional abuse.

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Sep 22, 2009
Right On!
by: Robert P.

Thank-You Darlene for pointing out that there is NO SUCH THING as appropriate diaper disciplining of older children, whether the boy/girl enjoyed it or not. The future mind-set of the child will be altered from the experience. The very fact that the child enjoyed it means it will very likely develope into a fetish that will affect the childs entire life.

I know from my own experience, the effect it had on me has affected every aspect of my life, of which I'd give anything to be able to change. The resulting sexual fetish has made me feel trapped and out of control of my own destiny. One of the cost of these addictive compulsions is my life long struggle with 'normal intimacy' in a relationship.

Please do not get mixed messages that because someone seems to enjoy being disciplined in diapers, that it is not harming them emotionally because it is. They're just too young to know it's life consequence yet.

Sep 23, 2009
Baby Sitting
by: Anonymous

One of the reasons it seemed to me that he enjoyed being babied was that he did not fight what was happening but was calm and very cooperative.
The first time I had to change his diapers I was fully prepared for him to put up a fight, but instead he layed quietly while I went through the process of changing him, he didn't even put up a fight when I let his four year old sister help by powdering his bottom while I held his legs in the air by his ankles.
For me, at the time taking care of him was not very different then taking care of a real baby, it was a day of changing diapers, bottle feedings, burpings, and baby food for lunch an dinner.
It was fun and he was easy to take care of.
I of course realized later on that this was wrong, and maybe he figured it would be easier that instead of fighting what was happening to just go along and accept being a "baby" and all went alomg with it.

Sep 24, 2009
we need to start screening better
by: Anonymous

IM 52 AND HAVE POSTED IN HERE BEFORE,,THAT LAST POST..WE NEED TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO TRULY CARES ABOUT THIS SUBJECT,AND THE PEOPLE ITS BEEN DONE TO THANK YOU

From Darlene: I agree, Anonymous, which is why I'm not allowing such posts any longer and have deleted some already.

To "Baby Sitting": I've been considering what you have written for several days now (all of your posts). I have come to believe your posts here are bordering on something beyond what it appears to be, or at the very least can be interpreted in that light by the visitors who come to this thread for support on the effects that diaper discipline has had on them; therefore, I will not be posting anymore of your comments on this babysitting situation. Thank you for your understanding.

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Sep 24, 2009
Baby Sitting (Final Comment)
by: Anonymous

From Darlene: I've kept your comment between us, but I will respond since I have no way of responding anywhere but here. There is no doubt in my mind that as a 14-year-old you had no part in the emotional abuse this boy endured. This was abuse at the hands of his parents; not at your hand. I did write a comment to you in that regard.

What I do have a problem with is in the constant repeating of the fact that this boy enjoyed it. It is in that constant repeating that the wrong impression may be left in the minds of those who frequently visit this thread because they themselves were violated with diaper discipline. This is not a strike against you or at what occurred when you were babysitting this boy. What it boils down to is my responsibility to those who have been abused with diaper discipline and the fact that this thread is a place for them to safely disclose what the repercussions where as children and how those repercussions have followed them into adulthood.

I posted what you had to say because I felt it was important that visitors understand the dilemma you personally faced, the repercussions of your unwitting involvement, what you are dealing with now as a result, and that which the 8-year-old boy faced as well. The fact that you now understand how wrong these parents were in disciplining their child in that way, and that they had no right to drag you into it the way they did, is a testament to your strength of character. You were an unwitting accomplice, but you had no real choice in the matter. I understand and appreciate that with all my heart. Your story can help my regular visitors to this thread realize that diaper discipline has far-reaching affects that they might never have before realized. So I thank you for bringing it up here.

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Sep 26, 2009
"Are they real?"
by: Anonymous

I'm sure this question has crossed our minds when reading the different comments and stories posted here, since there is no way to know with absolute certainty whether not a particular post is real or not.
For me personally I choose to accpet the possibilty that they might be real, in other words I give the poster the bennefit of the doubt.
And I'm sorry but you cannot tell if what is posted is real or not just by the way something is written.
The point I'm trying to make is that is is better to give people posting here the bennifit of the doubt then to accuse a real victim of being a liar.

Sep 27, 2009
GOD HELP THEM
by: Anonymous

I was abused,mny oldest brother would tell me about the monsters under the steps or my bed.So many wet beds cold nites,flipping mattreses,being teased by 4 bros.Iwas about three or four when my oldest brother told me about a chocolate bar in the medecine cabinet above the sink..I remember pinching them pieces off..anyways later that day we had aunts and uncles and lotsa cousins over..we were wrestling in the front yard when i felt like a growl in my stomach and then a hot trckle out my butt, i ran for the ditch by then it was running down my legs so i squat on my butt and waited till the close was clear and made a run for the back door and was suprised when the adult was in the kitchen I made it past them and up the stairs ...when i came back down my mother caught me and asked why the differant cloths while i was being scolded that pain came again and i crapped all over my self ..ma took me into the bathroom took all my clothes off washed me up and then took me out of the bathroom and in front of the adults into her bedroom and put me on the bed..i was scared shitless my baby sister slept in there.. in a baby bed and i knew something was up...there was.. she pulled out diaper and rubber pants and powdered and diapered me like a baby with nothing else on what puzzles me is why she put me on the dresser to see my self..in the diaper..dont remember any more..never told on my brother IN SECOND GRADE pleaded with the teacher to let me go to the restroom when i knew I couldnt hold any more I made a run for the bathroom,i didnt make it i can remember the teacher taking my wet clothes off and went to the lost and found and got the most weird clothes for me,,the rest of the day in school was hell the walk home all the teasing./.i looked down the steet and my aunts car was in the driveway she had a baby,they were visiting with my mother my brothers beat me in the door to tell on me..when i walked in my cousin was being diapered .my mom said she outta put me in one and my aunt handed here 3 of them.and my mom sat on the sofa and disrobed me wright there and told me to lay down on the cold wooden floor and pinned me in the first plastic diaper id ever seen...anyways lotta humiliation has been done...rapped in the bathroom by boys wanting to take my Pants away...ill write more maybe DIAPER DISCIPLINE OR PUNISHMENT TEASING HUMILIATION ITS EVIL THANK YOU

Oct 06, 2009
Frightening Punishment
by: Joyce

Several months ago my sister and I visited a woman friend for lunch. To our complete suprize and disgust she was diaper punishing her 10 year old son. While sitting at her kitchen table she got up and changed him on the dining room table forcing my sister and I to witness it. Her daughter was also present and I think about 13 or 14 years old. When she removed his diaper I could see welts on his buttocks and knew he was brutally spanked previousely. He was begging her not to spank him again and was histerical crying. I'm sure he was completely humiliated by my sister and I seeing him naked, not to mention his sister being in the same room. I immeadiately told this woman that I totally diaprove of it and after a few minutes discussing it told her I have lost all respect for her. My sister and I left before having lunch and I called the DHS in our area only to be told it was not illegal. I am so furious at this woman that she would treat her son in such a degrading way. Once she took his diaper off the boy cried the entire time we were there. I have two sons, 9 and 11, and would never consider such a punishment. It is cruel to say the least and the fact that she changed him while my sister and I were there only made it worse. I see this woman often and have refused to talk to her since. What she did to her son is unforgivable. A few weeks ago she tried to apoligize to me but was also trying to justify what she did. At that point I just told her to stay away from me and my children and also told her she should be arrested for child abuse. I can't stop thinking about it and feel so sorry for that boy. It boggles my mind how anyone could treat their own child with such sadistic behaviour.

Oct 06, 2009
To Joyce:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I share in your outrage, Joyce. And I also understand you not wanting to ever be in this woman's presence again. You certainly did the right thing by reporting it. So sad that Social Services are so blind to the effects of even so-called "legal" discipline. This boy is so clearly being emotionally abused.

Perhaps the next time you see this woman, point her toward this page. Although you might never be able to change her mind about what she is doing to her son, if she ever goes to this page, perhaps she'll come to her senses. One would wonder if she would be so willing to continue her abusive practice if she knew how she is destroying her son's self-esteem, how she has adversely affected her daughter, and how she has already likely created a fetish in her son that may leave him full of disgust and hatred, not only of his mother, but of himself. A recent comment post, dated Oct 3, 2009 titled I hate myself, at Diaper Discipline: Reality vs Appearance by Robert P on this site is a prime example.

Thank you for sharing this with my visitors and me.

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Nov 11, 2009
Trust me, none of it is real...
by: Anonymous

This phrase, "Trust me, none of it is real.", I have read over and over regarding diaper discipline sites.

Sadly, the Internet is chock full of rubbish, and a lot of not very bright people visit. People who are unable to sort out the truth from the lies.

So here I sit. Average loner teenage. In wet pants. Well, my overlong stint at being diapered is done with for now, but it has left its mark regarding bladder control. The actual wearing the diaper didn't bother me much, oddly enough. I was always an outsider and bullied by the other kids so this hardly changed a thing. What does bother me, a lot, is that I struggle to understand WHY. My parents don't want to talk, saying things like "I understand". Well, I don't. There are trust issues now.
One thing is for sure. As soon as I'm legally entitled, I'm out of there. To anywhere. It's sickening to spend another day with these people, never mind a year and a bit. My parents. Who are they? Why did they consider this appropriate? And what the hell was it for?

That these pro-diapering sites are rubbish is not a good argument when faced with sickos who want to believe. My parents included.

Nov 16, 2009
WHY????
by: Ronald F

WHY thats a good question. I have asked that over and over. I get no answer. I have talked to young
people. Most can not wait untill they get to the age were they can leave home. I did and its been about 26 years since I have been back. I have not spoken to them in about 4 years. It does leave its marks on a child. As far as people believing that diaper discipline is real. people are going to belive what they want. I looked at a site this week end were there was a tread about diaper discipline. Most of the replys was that it does not happen, it's not real. There is a person by the name of stanley, who speaks out about this punishment. He has posted here. I speak out about the use of diaper discipline. WE are working on a forum for you young people. It will be so you can come and get support. When it's ready I will give darline the info . the forum is in place whats needed is people who the young people can talk to. People who can help the young people. I reliase that a forum of this type needs some way to give the young people support. At this point all I could do is give them a place to tell there story and give each other support. It would be were they could sign in and talk to each other .
Thats whats in the works,
We do care about you young people, and we are trying to help.
Ronald

Nov 24, 2009
I wouldn't EVER treat my child this way....
by: Jay

Hi, I'm 22 years of age, and I have a daughter that is 2. Now, before I go on, I would like to share that I AM an DL (diaper lover)...but not in ANY WAY POSSIBLE would I ever even THINK of my daughter in any wrong ways...I love her more than anything and to think of punishing her this way once she gets older is shocking and disgusting...I am a DL because of my mother. When I was growing up I wet the bed and was DD'd on several occassions...My mother was never really around growing up, but when she was, I was hurt physically and emotionally. These things CAN haunt someone and CAN leave emotional scars for life, as it has for me. I am a single-father, and I am the primary care-giver for my daughter. My daughter means the world to me and has actually made me less of a DL. Now, that all might sound a little weird, but to me it makes sense. She keeps me sane in these days, without her mother (god rest her soul). Her mother understood my fetish, but now that I am single with my daughter, I fear that I will never be able to express my fetish to another woman, thinking that they might assume the worse about my daughter and I...but honestly, that helps! Not being able to talk about it actually makes it less of a problem to me. So to get back on point (sorry), after being Diaper Disciplined as a child, I grew up to be a diaper lover. And now that I have a child, I KNOW how horrible and how life-threatening it really is. I will NEVER EVER stoop to level of my mother, as I am always be there for my child. And I DO know the outcome of DD'ing...just look at more than half of these posts and you will see that I am not alone...and knowing that I am NOT alone is quite good feeling. Thanks, and I hope this made sense...it felt good to talk about it.

Nov 25, 2009
Yes Jay
by: Ronald F

Yes jay it does make sence. Most people who have had diaper discipline forced up on them know the affects it has on one. Thats why I speak out about the use of it. When I started to look into the group that was promoting the use of it on children, I started to look in to the people who were talking about how to use it. I checked to see if they had any back ground in child behavior. our any thing related to that. I was in shock when I found that the person who was giving parents advise about diaper discipline was in fact. a single adult male,
with no back ground in child discipline or any related field. In fact he is a telamarketer. I looked to see were else he had posted. He had a group on yahoo, they shut him down. From his post at other sites. HE IS a ab/dl into s@m.. Is this the type of person you would take parenting advise from.
Jay I can understand how it fills to be a parent and how it will change how you fill and act. A person children and wife should be the most important thing in ones life. If they are not then there is some thing about you that you need to look into.

For the person who posted before Jay. My heart goes out to You . Wish I could do sme thing to help. You sound like some of the children I have talked to. I know of two sites that promote the use of diaper discipline on children. One is aimed at boys the other is a private site. That you have to request to join.
The site thats Is being worked on for you young folks, I can not post the url or name of the site that I'm working on. If by chance you are on the second diaper discipline site I talked about, there is a young person who tried to start a site to help you children. Ask them, They are a moderator for my site. They are one of the forum admins. They can tell you were to find the forum. Its being made so you young folks have a safe place to go talk. I can not say any more then that, When Its time I will let darlene look at it Ronald

Dec 11, 2009
Interesting...
by: Anonymous

When I was in preschool, I went to this place called "Wee Pals". I remember if you acted bad they would put a diaper over your pants. I think for the rest of the day. Or sometimes they would put you in a playpin for a while. While I never had a diaper put on, I was once put in the playpin for a while.
I will admit that I do like diapers and do like some baby stuff, looking back even this kind of punishment is not really needed.
After reading quite a bit of the posts here, I REALLY hope that the parents who do this kind of thing realize quickly how bad it is. I would never want to put a child through that, or even the kind of stuff "Wee Pals" did.
To those who posted your stories, I could never even come close to truly understanding the hell you must have gone though, but I hope that you all find peace.

Dec 15, 2009
now I know why I am this way
by: Anonymous

I was the oldest of the three children my mother had. I was the only one in the family that my parents diaper disciplined. It was done in front of my siblings by my mother and father holding me down on a towel on the carpet. I don't remember anything they said to me when it happened but I remember being terrified and humiliated each time they did it to me. They did not let the neighbors see me or my friends, just my brother and sister.

Through out my life I was sad as long as I can recall. I think as a result of the diapering abuse, I have always had fetish issues now that go deep into my thoughts. I have little or no self esteem. I am estranged from my mother now, and I have unexplained thoughts of anger toward her that even invade my dreams. I have no contact with my brother and sister now.

Any parent that engages in diaper discipline like what my mother did to me is horrible, and a horrible parent. Don't do it to your children.

For you casual readers of this blog. It really does happen, it happened to me, and it is something I am ashamed of. I know that the vast majority of the accounts of this abuse written and posted online are pure fiction. For years I tried not to think about what happened.

I feel like my life was ruined by this treatment. I am only just now coming to realize why I am the way I am.

The only thing that seems positive out of this I guess is the images I have in my mind of looking up from the floor and watching my father rubbing oil or lotion and then baby powder on me and my mother pinning the diaper on. I can still see her with the pins in her mouth as she slid the diaper under me. I always felt a moment of shock every time the front of the diaper came down on the front of me covering my boy parts which I could see were covered with the white baby powder. I still remember the smell of the powder. It is those memories that makes me want to experience that again.

This site has an assesment someone posted about what happens later in life to someone that was diaper disciplined as a child, and it gave me the understanding that I never realized of my condition before. This site is a public service.


Dec 15, 2009
I dont know what to make of this
by: Anonymous

After reading some of your post ,,,,I am not surprised that people will go to such lengths to punish someone .

As it stands its not listed as a form of Child abuse under the law ,,,

Its beyond me how someone could even think of using diapers as a punishment....Who ever came up this idea has some sick issues themselves.

I read a few stories about people claiming to have been forced to wear diapers ,,,and it did not take me long to know its some far fetched fantasy some person made up


the only reason a parent should put their child in a diaper is if they are soiling or wetting themselves ,,,,And in such a case the parent should let the child know that its not a punishment just precautionary measure in case of an accident and let the child change themselves.

Dec 15, 2009
DARK CLOSET
by: RICHARDB

52 SINGLE,DIVORCED 30YRS,NO CHILDREN AND PRAY OFTEN FOR GODS HELP,ITS BEEN ROUGH.BOOZE HAS ALMOST KILLED ME..MARY JANE HAS HELPED ME! (TREMINDOUSLY) AND THE DRUG PAXIL!FOR ME-IT ALWAYS COMES BACK,BUT I RELIZE NOW THIS STARTED HAUNTING ME AT AN UNCOUNTIBLE AGE.I am forgivin i will keep this hidden in my dark closet,Iam not pedo,I would beat one to death with judgment in my fist!!! I am not gay ,but being an adult baby I understand-THAT ITS HARD,some dont care about society,children the public,the public is a lot easier on gays then back when i was a kid.but I myself know that there is a light in that dark closet that i keep seeking HEAVEN not sodem and gomara,,,dont judge me on my spelling.THANKS

Dec 16, 2009
coments on last post: "I don't know what to make of this"
by: ronaldf

There are a lot of storys on the web about diaper discipline. A great part of them are made up storys. But there are some true storys of people who have had this punnishment used on them. Most of the people who have been diaper punished, for the most part do not talk about it. They did not want any one to know about it while it was being done. And most do not want any one to know it was done.
I was looking into child discipline when I came across this group, that I speak out about. The frist time I went to there chat room. A young man of the age 0f 21 told me about the moderator. That he was a none parent who thought children should be made to wear diapers . He talked about his two cousions, girls 9 and 14, how there dad had abused them the hade forced them to wear diapers 24/7. He told me how he fought to be come there gardiuan. He also talked about the problems that they had because of there treatment . The next time I went on a young girl CJ was there talking about how unfair the punishment was. the moderatiors wife to be was doging that girl out telling her how she deserved to be in diapers. No one should be talked to like that gril was.Now diaper discipline is nothing new. IT came about . I will have to check my information about the who and whys.
As for the law there is none. If a child is sent to school in a diaper all the parent has to say is the child has a bladder problem. The school will ask no questions. Now if the same child went to school with bruses the school would have to report it as possible abuse. Its hard to get people to look into cases were diaper punishment is used. If you look on the web all you see are the made up storys. When a child does try to get help, they are told that they are making it up. so they give up trying. If they go to the child protective services. They have to prove that abuse is being done to the child. They have nothing physial to show other then the child has a diaper on. One case a girl told about her sister being diapered it could not be proved it was abuse so nothing was done. This family has a rule any one telling would be diapered 24/7 for 3 mounths. The next time it would be 6 mounths. If they told did it after that they would be kept in diaper.I reliase my spelling needs correcting. I,m going to post it any way. Do not have time now
Ronald

Dec 19, 2009
DD is only another form of child abuse
by: Anonymous

I wrote ealier that I think that a parent that diaper disciplines a child is horrible and a horrible parent. Robert's comments gave me greater understanding of why I am the way I am now.

Readers should remember that the parent that engages in Diaper discipline on a child will probably also beat the child or spank the child excessively. I know I was.

I was only diaper disciplined sporadically over the course of my 5th and 6th year of life as a humiliating punishment for having had a few urinary accidents while playing outside. I was far more often beaten, slapped around, and spanked by my mother for even the most minor unwanted behaviour.

Her most commonly used reason for the violence against me was my "attitude". My father rarely ever touched me in a violent manner such as my mother did. If he did it was at the direction of my mother. I think my mother often used me as a way to vent her anger.

She may have had some issues with men in general. I can recall horrific beatings on me and she never touched my sister. As a preteen she still slapped me around and only threatened me with diaper discipline occasionally but never did it.

I can recall as well as those threats that if I let my hair get long she would have me "fixed" by a doctor to force me to sit when I pee and that she would make me wear dresses and be a girl. Obviously, these were idle threats meant to terrorize me, but those threats at such an early age were enough to plant the seeds of fetishistic thoughts throughout my life.

The point I am trying to make is that a parent that puts a child in a diaper as a form of punishment, is the same type of parent that would abuse a child in other ways such as with violence and other forms of psychological abuse or even sexual abuse.

As I write this, in mid December I am reminded that now is the time that families come together. I don't have a family anymore, and I am without any kind of holiday cheer as others are. I often wonder how nice it would have been to have a mother that loved me enough to actually show it and to not have been abused by her. How different things could have been.

I hope all of you who have been abused as children find peace in your life and happiness. I hope I can find this too.

I wonder also, is there any real therapy for an adult haunted by memories of diaper discipline and other childhood abuse? If you can suggest anything Darleen please let me know, and thanks.

Shalom, Merry Christmas, and God bless you all

Dec 20, 2009
To Anonymous:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I've found the best way to find a therapist is to interview several, and ask the questions that are pertinent to your particular situation. If you don't feel that you can trust your therapist, then move on. Without trust, there is no therapy. Best of luck to you, Anonymous.

A very Merry Christmas, or happy holidays if you don't celebrate Christmas, to all who have written in this thread.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir


Dec 23, 2009
to anonymous
by: ronald f

I do not know if there is a theraphy as you speak of. You have taken the frist steps. That is to seak out help. When I was looking for help, there was a group of us, we talked and asked each others questions, and made suggestions as to what we could do to help our selfs. We looked inside our selfs why we thought and acted like we did. I belive it's called group therapy now. It's not easy it would of been easy to say I,m this way because of my abuse. Some time you have to pull your self up by the boot straps and say I'm going to make it. It,s easy to say i,m a ab/dl because of abuse it,s hard to put those things a side and seak out help to heal one soul. I wish you best wishes. I would say luck but it's not luck you need. It,s hard to look at one self and say I need to change. It's even harder to face your self and say I will change . When one looks in side them self they may not like what they see. A lot of people do not seak out help. they just live in there own world.
I speak out hoping parents will read this and find a better way, I was going to be a parent , but using this type of discipline does not make you a parent. a parent loves there child and teaches them right from wrong. How does putting a diaper on a child teach them any thing? Some parents say they do it to protect there children from the world I ask you how does this protect a child. If you are a good role model and teach you child right from wrong. Your child will not need to be protected they will be able to stand on there own two feet. If you set a bad example and do not get involed in there life. then they will turn out notHow? you tell me
Ronald

Jan 16, 2010
My therory
by: BMW Pricess

My theroy is that parents who use DD have hidden fetishes for sadisdm and/or dipar loving. They might not even know they have it. Also the parents might be control freaks.
I encourage all parents who are using DD to get help

Jan 24, 2010
This is a good read if you havent already read it.
by: Anonymous

http://hubpages.com/hub/Diaper-Discipline-What-it-is-and-why-its-dangerous-to-use-on-children

This is a very good read. A guy named stanley talksa about how DD is bad. Kinda long but its worth it if you have the time to read it.

About the DD Sites. Im undercover on a DD Messege board. Posing as a Father of a 8 year old called Alex Bishop.

The stuff i read hunts me. This barbaric. DD is illgeal.

I feel bad for the children who go through this everyday.

Jan 24, 2010
Abuser causes
by: Robert P.

I have been staying on the side lines for quiet a while now but this latest topic brings up a few issues I've hunted answers for over the years. After much research, I come to believe there are as many reasons a person abuses a child as there are abused children.

This very subject came up in my own therapy sessions because I wanted to know why the woman found pleasure in degrading me and not the other children in a similar fashion.

My counselors think it might be possible that she was punished this way as a child. Another possibility is she had an anger towards males because of an abusive father or even her husband. By degrading me, she might have found a source of revenge.

The reason she picked me for her target could possibly be because I was the right age to maximize the demoralizing effects. The younger boy was not yet old enough to have established a strong status position with the other children and the older boys would be too hard to control.

Of course there is no way to really know what was going through her head but these are possible reasons. I'm sure there are many other motives behind an abuser. Does it really matter the reason? The effect on the child is the real concern and whatever the motive means nothing to that child.

This is why I focus on the victim and not the abuser. The child is the one who needs to know they are a good person and just as special as anyone else. Shame there will always be abused children everywhere but maybe sites like this one can save a few hearts and souls. I really hope so.

Jan 25, 2010
hello
by: Ronald f

I have read the article that stanley has written. We talk every so often, He emailed me the day he put it on line. He had to rewrite it. At frist it told the sites owner name and were he was located . Huf pages made him rewrite is . You say you are under cover on the dd site? do not say that to load. Chip reads these pages and any others that has to do with diaper discipline. He has written a book how to get started using diaper discipline for parents. Its written from information that he has gotten off diffrent web sites.
The sad part is there are not that many sites he can get information from. . There are only a few sites that are about dd used on children. The others deal with adult dd and s&m .
I told one young lady that what Chip Was telling parents, Was a lot like one article I found on the web. Her remarks were that there was only so many ways you could use diaper discipline. It's real sad. Because this yound lady believes it is a good form of discipline, She only 20 years old, has had it used on her since she was 12. The article I talk about dealt with s&m On how to get the person to submit.
Thats what dd is about it is used to get the children to submit to what you tell them to do, They are made to obey whats told to them , They are forced to not have a will of there own. The children are told its for there own good, to protect them from the world.
I wonder if the parents have looked in to who the person is thats telling them how to discipline there children. I wonder if they know that this man and his wife are known in the AB/DL world as the diapered coulpe. Would they still take his advise.
A man who like to wear diapers and who is into s&m him self.
I have done the research to back up what I say.
The problem is getting some one to look at the information . And putting it together. If I can and stanley can others should be able to.
If any one in law enforcement would like to see, I belive it could be arranged .
Ronald

Apr 08, 2010
update
by: Anonymous

The 17 year old that started this whole thread was there ever an update? Is he free from the punishment?

From Darlene: It wasn't the 17-year-old who asked me this question, Anonymous. It came from Ronald, who knew of this person being diapered for discipline. Perhaps Ronald knows the answer to your question; but it is up to him whether or not he wants to answer.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir



Jun 07, 2010
Why do kids allow it to be done to them.
by: Anonymous

One question that I'm sure many people have asked is why would any kid allow this to be done to them. You would think they would fight tooth and nail to prevent it, to the point it where wouldn't be worth the trouble.
While I am certainly no psychology expert I do have theory on why. 1 Fear: The kid comes to, or is made to believe that things will be far worse for them if they don't accept it, and so it is better to not fight being diapered, or having to use them even if it means the possibilty of exposure such as having their diapers changed in a public setting in front of other people.
2 Deserved: The kid actually believes that he deserves to be diapered and humiliated in this manor.
Again as I said I am no expert, these are just theories on my part.

Jun 07, 2010
the children realy have no choise
by: Ronald f

You ask how can a child could let this be done.
frist off they have no choise in it . Alot of the parents fit the changing table with restraints to hold the child.
after the diaper is put on they put on a pair of plastic pants that have a small lock. There is no way the child can get them of. Some parents will take pitures and put them on face book or another site as long as the child does as they are told the pitures are kept private. Some familys use a diaper like they would a spanking. it was started when the child was young and never stopped .
Some children talk about taking the own life because of the treatment they recieve.
Some parent regress the child to the point were the child drinks from a bottle, has to sleep in a crib.dressed up in baby clothes .
You have no ideal how much of a hell life can become.
There a site housed in russia were the parents post the pitures.
They will tell people were to go to see them.
I could go in to more detail.
I,m not sure if you really want to know or if you are trolling for information.
For those who asked if the boy ever got out of diapers. I do not know. His punishment was reported. After that i lost contact with him.
Ronald




Jun 08, 2010
ALONE
by: gurubaby

Its bad to use its damaging,Im single no kids dont date,cant have a relationship,its turned me into an adult baby and now im in the closet ALONE. scared to death to tell anyone specially women cause the baby never leaves me ALONE,52 and still haunts me -no women that wants to be with adult babies unless its for money,so we are left ALONE with it!DIAPER DISCIPLINE IS ABUSE

Jun 08, 2010
Resistance Defeated
by: Robert P.

Hmmmm. Why doesn't the child resist DD? For me, I was held down by my peers under my abuser's orders. Once diapered, my soul emptied out and there was no energy to fight. My resistance was defeated. My efforts couldn't stop the demoralizing shame. I was now reduced to the helplessness of a real baby and my armour (clothes) had been removed leaving me naked and venerable to everyone. I just went numb and dead inside as the world became surreal and detached. Why doesn't the child resist? He or she probably does the best they can but are over powered either by physical force or fear until they succumb. Anyone who has actually had this done to them already knows the answer to this question. Defeat begets Helplessness. Helplessness begets surrender. Surrender begets defeat.

Jun 09, 2010
"parents, and their attitude"
by: Anonymous

Is it the diapering itself, or the way and attitude to which it is approached.
I have no doubt that many have suffered horribly when diapers were used as a way to humiliate and degrade, but its also true that many parents use diapers, not to punish, but simply as a practical way of dealing with a specific need, such as medical problems, or as in my case uncontrolable bedwetting.
I grew up in the 70's and I was eight years old when my mother informed me that she would be diapering me at night until my bedwetting stopped.
I was devestated, but she made it clear to me that it was not a punishment, and that it was a priavte family matter and no tormenting from others, such as my siblings would be tolarated.
The first night that my mother started to diaper me (again) was awkward, because she diapered me in the same manor she diaperd a baby.
Cloth diapers and rubber pants were what was used, so she would fold three or four diapers together, then she would grab my ankles to lift my legs and bottom up to get he diapers under me, then she would ad diaper rash ointment and baby powder finally diaper pins were used to secure them, and rubber pants were put on.
This was our nightly routine until my wetting stopped, which it did. This could have been hard and humilating time for me, but because my mother took my feelings into account it wasn't. Awkward? yes. Humiliating? no.

Sep 09, 2010
Babysitter disciplined for her charges wet diapers
by: Anonymous

I was talking with one of my Lady Friends about a situation that developed over her Babysitter not changing her son. She was sitting her 2 year old son and the mom had changed him just before leaving for a four hour shopping trip. Upon her return she found her son in a terrible mess with the same diaper on she had put him in before leaving. Out of anger she confronted the young Lady, fourteen years of age, and her Mother who had come to pick her up after her babysitting job. Both Mother mad and daughter very upset left the house and drove off.

The following day a call came from the Mother of the Babysitter, asking if they could come over? Reason being, to give an apology for what had happened during the Daughter's babysitting job.Cooler heads and forgiveness were the intentions of my Lady Friend for there was no real harm done.

Upon arrival of the Mother and Daughter my Friend was shocked to see the young girl clad in diapers and plastic pants with only a T-Shirt for a top.The Mother drug her daughter from the car by the ear and pulled her up the front side walk. They stood at the front door where she had a prearranged apology for my friend.

Before my friend could do anything to rescue this young girl in distress the Mother pulled her back to the car and drove off.

My Friend then made two calls, one to the Police and the second to Child Services.

Oct 08, 2010
Diaper discipline
by: Anonymous

Interesting to read all of the comments, really alot to read. Guess I'm not certain if diaper discipline is definitely abuse or not suppose it depends on how it is used. I was diapered until I was about 16 every night for bed wetting. Growing up we were also very poor. It wasn't uncommon for me to be around the house in the evening wearing only a cloth diaper and plastic pants. My diapers and what few clothes I had were washed out by hand and hung to dry. During the winter months clothes were hung acroos the living room. Also there were times when I would have to wear only underpants around home because my pair of jeans was being washed, usually this would be like on a Saturday maybe, we tried not to completely wash them that often. Instead would damp wash them off so they would dry faster. I never really thought that much about being diapered as abuse though.

Oct 21, 2010
Re Diaper/Nappy discipline
by: Dave

Firstly I would like to say to Ronald, why beat your self up over this diaper discipline site, I have been to this site my self and I have to say that I have not read one thread which carries any credibility, as I have said in earlier post I did, suffer diaper discipline and other types of abuse as a kid the whole experience was to say the least horrible, and as a result I was left wth a dependency on wearing diapers as a way of escaping reality and a means of stress relief, so I know how the real thing feels and how it is carried out, there is no rational planning it just happens, one day you get home and find your self with a choice of a beating or a diaper or both, and eventually your spirit is broken to a point where it happens, you are in a diaper and the experience is just gross all rationality just goes out of the window. The people who visit that site have a diaper discipline fetish, I have grown up with plenty of kids around me, only last week we had friends staying with us along with their three girls age fourteen six and two these kids have grown up with us and I have to say that if anyone tried anything like this or tried to hurt them in any way then I would be the first to retaliate, these kids will never ever know about my diaper fetish because this is somthing private that I had to suffer and as a result, I now find my self visiting diaper fetish and discipline sites, and that is what that site is about there is no way that anything on that site is real it is pure fantasy, how on earth could a parent get away with keeping a teenager in diapers full time let alone infantile clothing, IE school etc I went through hell with the bed wetting issue but even my stupid mother and step father had the sense to realise that full time dipering would never be an option accept at the weekend and even then I was only forced to keep my wet diaper on until one or both of them decided to crawl out of bed and remove it.Sorry Ron but that site is a place for fantasist who's minds have been battered through the reality of forced diapering at an age when it should never have happened.Unfortunately my wife and I cannot have children but if we had then there is now way on this earth that we would have resorted to these measures I would have washed their sheets my self first and bought a new matteress every week if I had had to, but I still have fantasies about diaper discipline because of what I suffered, but that is all they are, just fantasies, and so are all the threads on that site.

Oct 22, 2010
GOD(HELP US)
by: The Guru

Isnt it terrible,what this disease,mental retardation,fetish,kink whatever people want to call it.To me,Ill call it a scar,from Child Abuse Effects.The effects has never left me permantly.Ideal with it,and in the belief that there will be a day!In the meantime,Ive gone thru hallucagenics,booze,pot and been to a shrink.Im at 53 been single and NO children,and for 30yrs I have done a lot of Prayin!Been very lonley and depressed,BUT MY LORD HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE FOR ME...And He Will Be There For You.GOD WILL HELP Guru Baby? Thanks for letting me post

Jan 04, 2011
Two things Why do we let them do this to us and what are you doing here if you have not gone through this are you trying to defend those who do
by: David

Im one of those who wet the bed when i was little unless you have gone through the abuse that some of us have you would know, have you ever had your privates tied with a string ? or would you rather wear a diaper and plastic pants ? have you ever had tape rapped around your privates or would you rather wear a diaper and plastic pants and have you ever had some one garb you there so tight you cry then you tell me why didnt i complain or raise a fuss,and why didnt i tell some one I did but CPS in the days of the 60-70 took the word of an adult over a child, and for you who come here to say that these stories are false and untruths what are you doing here in the first place? are you trying to find out what its like or are you trying to just put people down and make us feel the shame all over is this what you do to further abuse those that have gone through hell already for you you need to get a life

Jan 04, 2011
Diaper/nappy disapline
by: wetone

For one thing do not judge the others here because they write here, you just did how can you say that these stories arnt real is your story real? Well what you going to say to that im not going to argue with you but read what you just wrote your the same as us and if you wear diapers to this days dont say you dont live out your past fantasies its like calling the kettle black when you doing the same thing

Jan 06, 2011
I'm sorry for everything
by: i'm a soldier formely annomynouse

I'm a bit dissapointed to what Iv'e herd I thought in this sight you can type in your experiences of child sexual abuse and people will read them and listen to what you say, but it seems that people tend to argue with each other. Now i'm worried that my story I recently submitted will be critisised or not, I dn't know if daiper discipline is real or not if it is then it's very disturbing and the children who have to endure it should be taken to a loving family not some weard parents who listen to a fetteshist for child raising tips. I thought it would have come under abuse, i've read darleanes post saying it comes under emotional abuse and in certain cases sexual abuse, unfortunately due to the abuse I endured as a child I now have a fettish but I am trying to get rid of it I am seeing a psychosexual theropist but it seems everywere I go theres constant reminders, to the people who have suffered abuse I am very sorry to hear that I can feel your pain your going through but at the same time I can only imagine how horriffic it must have been.

From Darlene - Webmaster: To I'm a soldier - within the articles pages on this site, I am a bit more lenient with regard to comments than I ever am with the child abuse stories section of this site; on those pages I'm extremely careful. Perhaps I missed one comment that I should not have allowed to go live here on this thread. Sometimes that happens on these articles pages because the comment left is more in relation to the article than any one person's story. It's a great challenge to catch them all within these types of pages, as I have so many, especially when you consider how many comments get left on certain pages, like this one. I'm the one who's sorry for letting you down by allowing a comment that was offensive to your story and to you personally. That certainly wasn't my intent. I'll try to be more diligent in the future. One of the challenges I face is the sheer number of comments and stories that come through my site each and every day. As the site gains in popularity and traffic, so too has the responsibility. I did not mean to allow your integrity and good name to be questioned. My sincere apologies. And thank you for bringing it to my attention.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir


Jan 07, 2011
I'm a soldier
by: Anonymous

hi thanks for your comment, I think your doing a fantastic job and i agree it must be hard with the huge number of comments made, I suppose I was refering to the people that are commenting about daiper discipline I forget what excactly they say but it was more like they were arguing but then again I guess I should accept that people do argue, thank you for this sight it brings alot of good to the people who have been abused. I hope you had a merry christmas and a happy new year

From Darlene - Webmaster: Thank you, I'm a soldier. I spent virtually all of Christmas and New Year's working on a court case, but it was spent working with my hubby, so it was a special time. Hope you had a merry Christmas and that 2011 brings more healing your way.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir

Jan 08, 2011
Spelling
by: Anonymous


I admit that this may be nit picking but please before you post your comments take a few minutes to check your spelling. It may not seem that important but poor spelling can adversley impact what the commenter is trying to say or the point he or she is trying to make.
I've come across comments on this and other sites where to say the spelling was atrocious would be an under statement. Sometimes the spelling is so bad it makes it almost impossible to understand what is trying to be said. I often times won't even bother to finish reading a comment do to the unbelievably bad spelling.
So please take a minue and to the best of your ability make sure of the spelling.
Thank you.

Jan 09, 2011
spelling
by: Im a soldier

unfortunately I am not that good at spelling it's something that I can not help, I do try my best, with everything else that is on my mind to be honest it just makes it that much harder so please forgive my spelling mistakes. When I come on this website I come on hear without fear of intimidation as a survivor I want to express my feelings to everything related

Jan 09, 2011
thank you
by: im a soldier

hi darlene I bet that is very time consuming especially over christmas but if it was special because you were with your hubby then that is good, thank you for your kind words its not the abuse that has hurt me it's the fact i feel victimised but i have been doing more practical stuff like working on my future going running taking my mind off things i am usually good but a couple of days ago i broke down in tears but i got organisations to talk to.

Jan 10, 2011
Child abuse
by: Anonymous

From Darlene - Webmaster: Anonymous, you are entitled to your views about women in general, but this thread is about "diaper discipline" and the effects this type of discipline has on children. And while I don't disagree that women are most often the child abusers, your comment here spoke nothing on the issue of diaper discipline, which is why I removed it. Thank you for your understanding.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir

Jan 11, 2011
Spelling
by: Anonymous

Im A Soldier;
My comments about spelling are not directed at you specifically it is just a request of all who choose to post comments that they try to make sure of the spelling to the best of their ability since very bad spelling can have a negative impact on what the person posting the comment is trying to say.
That is all the point I am trying to make.

Feb 21, 2011
it is wrong
by: Anonymous

it is total abuse. it is harmful to the kid and will cause them to have no will to liv

Mar 31, 2011
I am hurting still
by: Anonymous

I grew up in a disability institution. Where diapering children was the norm even if you wet the bed like i did. Yes there were children who had to wear them because of there disability how ever i did not need to i was 7 years old at the time. I was put into diapers for bed wetting and the way it was handle i felt i was being punished, I had many psychological problems at the time which explains the wetting and i still have these psychological problems now. Sadly the alarm bells weren't ringing at the time when i was wetting the bed. No one really looked into the real reason why i was wetting.

Whether or not my diapering was punishment or not i have been damaged by it.

And yes i still wear diapers today Why? because i feel safe and secure.

Diapering discipline should be against the law. And i assume why it isn't against the law is because a lot of the authority's don't know it exists.

As for people who wet the bed. Diapering should be used as a last resort where everything else has failed. And parents need to get permission from the child and not treat it as a punishment.

Apr 02, 2011
Part Two my story
by: Anonymous

As i stated above i grew up in a disability institution. I have several disability's from birth. In the Sixties and seventies the mentality by the Doctors was if you have a disabled child put them in a institution and forget about them.
My Mum was pressured into doing this. On top of this my parents divorced.

I didn't like living in a institution. It was terrible trying to work out why you were there and why your parents never visited. I must say on the whole the staff who were nurses were pretty good apart from the odd one or two. I also had to cope with my disability's which i found very hard to deal with. I also found it hard that my mum and father didn't want anything to do with me anymore didn't love me. It was a lot to deal with. When i was 13 years old i was integrated into the community. How ever when i was integrated i was sexually abuse by another boy. If i had my time again i would have stayed at the institution. Despite its flaws at least i was safe from the outside world.

When i turn 18 i left the group house and i got a full time job. Have had the job for the last 20 years.

Despite all my problems and bad memories i was going to build a better life for myself. And i have half succeeded in this. But i still have a long way to go in sorting out my past.




Apr 18, 2011
i was forced to wear for the first 18 yrs of my life
by: mat lewington

when i was 6 my mom forced me back into diapers and wore them everywhere and had to pee and poo in them as well. she made me wear them till i was 18 and she beat me till i was 18 and now that iam 27 i still wear them to this day. and nowone understands anything of it either. so yea its child abuse

May 18, 2011
teen never potty trained
by: Anonymous

I know two 15 year old twins who have been raised as babys every day of there life the mother just moved in to our nabor hood with the children I went over to welcome her to the naborhood when she lifted one of the girls out of her carseat she had on nothing but a t-shirt and a dirty diaper her yelled at her to stop crying that her diaper would be chainged in a minit her mom thin droped her in a play pin and went and got the other girl i asked how old they were and what was wrong with them the mother said ow nothing i've just raised them as babys I was shocked she handed one girl a baby bottle thin the other and proseeded to chainge her diaper the girl had pooped and peed her self nether girl can walk or talk they are also feed nothing but baby food they crawl around there house when alloude to there room is a complete baby nurceary with all there baby suplys and absolutely no toys it is sick

From Darlene - Webmaster: If this is true and not just someone putting a "story" on here, then you have an obligation to report the mother for child abuse. So please, do what's not only right, but what's your duty.

From Victim to Victory, a memoir
Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir

May 29, 2011
Still look in
by: Ronald F

I'm glad to see that people are starting to tell there storys of diaper disciple.
Many be some day people will understand the affect it has on a child.
Ronald

Aug 06, 2011
I am seeing a counsellor
by: Anonymous

Dear Darlene

I am the person who posted the two stories regarding my childhood in the Disability institution.

I am now seeing a counsellor and discussing about my childhood days and how bad it was. I also really want to tell her about my Diaper fetish which started in the institution. And i want to tell her because it is all related to my childhood. But i am too scared to tell her. And yet i have told her far worse things like sex abuse.

Could you please give me some advice on how i should approach this. I am worried that she might not approve of it or she might want me to stop using it as security. And there is no way i will give it up.

Aug 20, 2011
Why some ppl have the ability to reproduce is beyond my knowledge.
by: Joel

I have never had to deal with this type of abuse, all I can say is that I would NEVER EVER forgive the ones who would degrade me like this. This would not teach me to stop wetting the bed or whatever the offense is, this would only teach me vengence and rage. That's all that would be on my mind. Some people should not be allowed to reproduce.

Dec 27, 2011
...
by: infantlist boy 30 years

hi my name is Truls I am 30 years old and infatlist. Here is my story:

when I was small, about 2.5 years old so I was sexuelt molested in bed while I was changing the diaper on .. This meant that I peed a lot to me until I was 8 years .. I especially remember an incident when I was 5 years old and had fallen asleep on the floor where the mother had stripped off my clothes and put on my diaper


the next year, I was terrified of diapers, but missed them every time I cost me even when I was in a way confiscation of diapers ... I've tried to find out later if it is common for children who have been forced to had to wear diapers again after stopping or children who have been molested during diaper change, has to develop infantisme in adulthood ... this is a serious ppm.

This is a terrific forum and it feels good to read about others who have it like me ..


Truls

Dec 28, 2011
diaper discipline happened to me
by: Anonymous

to the person who said this stuff only happened in the 50s and 60s, i can tell you the 'only' part of that statement is incorrect.

i am an adult diaper lover who was diaper disciplined back in the 80s. i was forced to wear diapers to school, and while i did my best to keep the fact i was wearing diapers from everyone the kids in my school found out about it, and if the kids knew than in hind sight i am sure the teachers knew (and they didn't do anything about it)

perhaps now days it would be considered child abuse, perhaps even back then it would have been considered child abuse if i went to the authorities about it, but most children do not want to be taken away from their parents, and honestly back then the thought of turning my parents in never even crossed my mind. really i am glad i didn't anyway, i'd probably be even more messed up if i had been removed from my parents and who knows what abuses might have happened to me in the foster system (and abuses in the foster system do happen. sadly rapes and other abuses happen in the foster system, but i digress)

diaper discipline is disgusting, and i don't mean the dirty diapers part of it. the whole idea of messing with your child's head and regressing them is disgusting. fortunately for me my mother didn't attempt to regress me in any other way than to make me wear diapers, she never called me a baby or said i behaved like a baby, she just told me i had to wear them because i pooped my pants, which i had on several occasions. still it was a punishment more than a medical thing, and either way now i am a diaper lover because of it.

so, anyway, it happened to me in the 80s, it probably still happens to kids now, and it is something that shouldn't happen.

i believe there should be some laws put in place for this, but it is a delicate area. i know that i wouldn't want to get placed in prison because i forced my kid to wear a goodnites (or similar) to bed when if s/he is a wetter.

still, i believe parents shouldn't be touching their own kids'(or anyone's else of course) genitalia after the child is potty trained and able to clean themselves up. certainly the parents of a child who's hit puberty and doesn't need diapers for medical reasons (verified by a medical doctor) shouldn't be putting diapers on their kids or seeing their kids nude.

the child isn't an adult until 18, but they still deserve some rights to privacy after puberty, and really sometime before.

Dec 28, 2011
re: I am seeing a counsellor by: Anonymous
by: Anonymous

i know exactly how you feel. i was seeing a councilor after my sister died for my depression, i thought about telling my councilor about my diaper desires as well, but never got my gut up.

my advice to you, if you really want to be free(er) of it is to just get your gut up and blurt it out. or optionally start by saying, "i have something i really want to tell you", to your councilor.

part of the reason i am posting on this site is because talking about it helps me to become more free of it. another reason is because reading sites like these help me to understand the psychology behind it better.

the more i understand about why i feel the way i feel about diapers, the less and less i feel the desire for them.

i find that i am less embarrassed about my desire for them, and wearing them i find them less and less comfortable. maybe this doesn't work for everyone who desires them, or maybe it could, but the more open i am about them the less i desire them.

maybe i will never be rid of the desire for them, but maybe i will. i digress. my point is, my advice is, just talk to your counselor about them. get it out in the open. or go to a catholic church where no one knows you (even if your not catholic) and go in the confession booth and tell the priest, then go to another one and tell that priest, until eventually you can tell your counselor.

i have actually began talking about it with my mother recently. i was on the phone with her one day and flat out said to her (though in a some-what lovingly and some-what jesting, but enough seriousness to let her know i was still serious, i opened the topic with) you know mom, you really messed me up. then i explained to her about my diaper desires (which she knew about because i used to wear and hide diapers long after she forced me to wear them to school - heck, i used to wear them to school when she didn't force me some times after she had forced me)

anyway, it felt good to get it out in the open and i can only imagine its a similar feeling that homosexuals get when they come out.

Feb 18, 2012
diaper punishment
by: karen

I am in my middle 30s and my parents used diaper and rubberpants discipline and punishment on me when i was a preteen and teen.It started at age 11 and went untill past my 16th birthday.We lived next door to a family who had a mentally retarded daughter who was 14 at the time and wore cloth diapers and toddler rubberpants 24/7.she had the mentality of a 2 year old.starting at age 11,when i would get into trouble,my mom would borrow a cloth diaper and rubberpants from the neighbor and put them on me and make me wear them around the house and for holidays as my punishment.she bought 2 of the neighbor girls cloth diapers and 2 pair of the rubber pants and put them in my drawer as a reminder.when ever i had to be punished,a diaper and rubberpants were brought out and put on me.this continued into my teen years and i was also made to wear just the rubberpants under dresses as punishment also.Igot into trouble when i was 16 and just be fore my confirmation and was put into the diaper and rubberpants under my white dress.some of the girls found out about them and teased me.that was the last time i wore them!

Feb 19, 2012
My after effects and reality
by: REGRETS

As far as the whole topic goes. There were many good points brought up. Fetish & reality, longterm effects, websites. In one comment I'd like to reply to is the one about the: Billy has been in diaper discipline for a week and I'm seeing improvements.
OF COURSE YOU'LL SEE THE IMPROVEMENTS. HE WANTS TO DO ANYTHING TO BE OUT OF THOSE DIAPERS! Yeah there are plenty of fiction sites of diaper punishment but hear me out..........I CAN'T LIVE A SINGLE CURSED DAY WITHOUT VIVID FLASHBACKS!!! NOT ONE SINGLE DAY! Restraints were involved, laxatives, babyish clothes, AND BEFORE ANYONE WRITES THIS OFF AS FAKE LET ME TELL YOU!
PICTURE THIS, YOU TRY TO GO AND TELL SOMEONE AN EMOTIONAL SCAR ON YOUR LIFE AND THEY CALL YOU A FREAK FOR MAKING UP SUCH A DIRTY LIE!!! I am incontinent now because for years the bathroom was locked for me! They even have a thing called "locking" plastic pants! As far as unrealistic behavior improvements, I wanted the heck out of those diapers so I submitted and did everything my parents told me to do! Of course My act changed. But still to this day I can't go to someone and pour my heart out of things that burden me without them calling me a sicko. I still wear diapers cause I have no control over BOTH my bladder and my bowels. I tried to get re potty trained but the condition was to bad. I was emancipated from my parents at the age of 17. I was in diaper discipline for more than a year by the way. And HATE it when I go to sites or people I thought I could trust to tell what happened to me, and they call me a sicko!!! I HATE BEING MISUNDERSTOOD! I developed a small liking for diapers to deal with having to wear them but people don't understand why I wear them. This blog seemed like a way to tell what happens to victims of this so I felt urged to say my part. You can call me a fake, sicko, freak, liar, or other insults to this testimony. I'm used to it now. You'll only be another number of people who hate me. Just another number. Sorry if I wasted anybodys time. I turne 20 in the summer.

Feb 19, 2012
To Regrets
by: Anonymous

I don't doubt your story for one second. This does happen and in secret which is why no one hears about it including the authority's.

Part of the problem are the AB community who like to fantasize about the exact thing you are talking about. You see so many fantasies stories on AB sites and a lot of people don't know if it is true or just fantasy. I have nothing against the AB community a lot of them have personal issues on why they wear diapers like diaper discipline when they were younger or child abuse.

I wouldn't worry about people who think you are a sicko they are no friend of yours. You know it happened and that's all that matters. I also suggest you get counseling which is what i am having at the moment for many issues that are confronting my life.

Apr 17, 2012
Look.
by: Anonymous

I know how you guys feel about being punished with diapers and baby items by your sick twisted families, but I bet all of you would like to sign the petition to stop diaper discipline. Stanley Thornton Jr. needs our help to ban diaper punishment. Here's the site: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Help-Ban-Diaper-Discipline/
I've already sign it and now all of you can sign the petition.

From Darlene - Webmaster: I'm making an exception by allowing this URL to appear here. The only reason I have is because I support the cause and have signed this petition personally. I hope you'll all consider doing the same. Just copy & past the URL into your browser. I send you all love, light and healing energy.

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Darlene Barriere
Webmaster: www.child-abuse-effects.com
author. speaker. survivor. coach
From Victim to Victory, a memoir


Apr 18, 2012
Victims of Victims
by: Robert P.

As I wrote a long while back, I was also disciplined in diapers that started at age six. I am now 69 years old and still controlled by the fetish effects of those experiences. I still don't understand the complete psyche of why something so humiliating turns into a sexual desire but it seems to be the case with many of us.

Many times in my life, I would wind up crying at my helpless addiction to diapers and the recurring images of my childhood traumas. I would often tell myself it would go away in a few more years when I was a little older but that day never came no matter how many times I tried to stop. I realized this fetish was costing me my feelings of self worth, my pride in who I am and a belief I was worthy of being loved.

From what I've read, many of you have the same compulsive attraction to diapers. And I'm also sure it has had a life changing impact on you and in your relationships with others, especially romantic ones. The fantasies that this fetish creates are mostly wishful thinking such as finding a mate who would enjoy treating you as a baby or would enjoy putting you in diapers. I doubt many will ever find such a mate unless that person possibly had been similarly victimized.

I was lucky in that I found a woman that loved me enough to try and deal with it but it cost her many of her own dreams. If I'd put myself in her place, maybe I would have seen how unfair it was to her and of how selfish it was of me. Looking back, I can hardly imagine how differcult it must have been for her to love a man and yet see him wearing diapers or even worst, getting involved by put him in diapers and treating him like a baby. I'm sure it had to be a turn off for her sexually.

Sadly, my spouse passed away three years ago after almost 45 years. Naturally, I miss her beyond words but more painful than that, I now realize and regret all that I had put her through. She was a true angel to have loved and stayed with me all these many years.

The point I'm trying to make is, diaper dicipline effects everyone who comes into the victims life and they too can become victims. It's too late to undo my past and I'm not sure I could have stopped and changed it anyway. But I do feel the pains of how I lived my life. Sure, the sexual pleasures sometimes made it seem a blessing but was it really? I seriously don't think so. I missed out on something far greater. My self respect as a man and the pride of knowing I had been all that I could have been for her.

So now I live the best I can, still experiencing my fetishes from time to time and worried what will my kids think when someday, I'm found dead in my home, dressed in baby clothes. I can only pray it doesn't end up on CNN news and embarrass everyone. God! How I hate that woman for having punished me in diapers. She should have been the one diapered and dragged through the streets for the life(s)she ruined. God bless and keep you all.

Jun 20, 2012
is this child abuse
by: Brandon

is it child abuse for a mother to put a diaper on her son of 7years old and make him wear only it and a T-SHIRT in public, for her to make him use it and then tell him to change himself

Jun 22, 2012
Yes it's abuse!
by: Anonymous

Hell yeah it's abuse! This is a perverted sex play that should only be occurring between consenting adults! If my parents had ever done this to me, I seriously would have gone to jail for murder. Any parent who does this to a child is satisfying a fetish under the disguise of "discipline"

May 11, 2013
abuse
by: Anonymous

can i ask how can this be legal? to force anyone epecaly a child to wear one etc is sick it must be abuse

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