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Is diaper discipline child abuse?

by Ronald F
(Birmingham, Alabama, USA)

I know of some children who receive diaper discipline as punishment. One boy, now 17, has been in diapers since he was 12. Is this legal; is it not abuse?

Reply from Darlene regarding your question about diaper discipline: In the state of Alabama, whether or not "diapering" an adolescent as a form of punishment is actually illegal in and of itself, I couldn't say. What I can say is that diapering a teenager would be considered emotional child abuse. The adolescent you referred to will likely be scarred for life because of this form of punishment.

He is way past the age of wearing diapers. He's being treated as a small child, which falls under the emotional abuse category of rejecting. You didn't say whether or not the 17-year-old boy must wear a diaper in public. If he is being made to do so, ridiculing a youth in public would fall under the emotional abuse category of terrorizing. Either way, diapering this boy is humiliating, and cruel and unusual punishment.

Since no details were included about how this teenage boy is diapered, or if he's made to urinate and defecate in the diaper and forced to wear the soiled diaper, there's no way to say whether or not any other form of abuse is taking place, such as neglect, physical abuse or sexual abuse.

This 17-year-old boy should disclose to CPS what he is being forced to endure. If he doesn't feel comfortable disclosing, I would strongly urge him to contact Child Help at 1-800-4-A-CHILD (1-800-422-4453) so that he can talk to a professionally trained counsellor, someone who can lend an ear and offer support.

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Jan 30, 2008
 Diaper discipline
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

In order to ensure my visitors understand that I have replied to this question, I have removed it from this comments section and moved it into the content section (done May 24, 2009).

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Feb 25, 2008
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by: Anonymous

***Removed by Darlene Barriere, Webmaster, as highly inappropriate - replied to Anonymous in post below***
Feb 25, 2008
 To Anonymous: ABSURD...
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

You need serious help if you really and truly believe that diaper discipline is an appropriate form of discipline. You obviously haven't read a thing on this site about what you are doing to your child emotionally. You may think you are doing your child good, but what you are doing will have serious consequences for the rest of his life. You have already regressed him (putting himself in diapers when he needs calming) to an unnatural state, one that is inappropriate and puts him at risk for bullying, harassment, etc. You are doing nothing to advance him for the real world when you incorporate such a ridiculous form of discipline. Indeed, you have set him back.

So don't come onto my site and start advocating for abusive forms of discipline because you are not welcome here! If you care one iota about your son, get yourself AND your son some psychiatric help before it's too late!

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Feb 26, 2008
 candy story
by: ronald f

candy...was always helping others the only one she could not help was her self. she and her sister was abused by there dad until the time he died. the abuse left its mark on her she killed her self when she was 21 . she could not handle what had been done to her. you can never tell the affect a punishment has on a child. what there mind set is. i have told a few people the details. i will go into a few details.
it started at age 7 when her mother died and her dad took over the raising of two girls he had a temper he use to spank them bare bottom . any thing he could do to punish them he did . then he found out about diaper discipline it left no marks on them and no one could see . but he could make it as hard as it could be they were put into diapers 24/7. they were dressed and treated like a baby
they had to use a diaper like a baby.that went on for 11 years up until the time he died . she just could not deal with how she had been treated

i have been on the diaper discipline web sites i have seen what they wanted me to see. i have seen what they have not wanted me to see i know for a fact that the man and wife on the main one is an adult baby and a diaper lover his wife is also yet you folks take advise from him and put your children in diapers? why look google his names and look at the posts that turn up . do you want to take advise from a person like that
Mar 16, 2008
 think about it
by: ronald f

that reader said that diaper discipline was like putting a band aid on a cut . i have been on the diaper discipline sites . i would like her to think about some thing. there is one site. that is run by a man he has no children . when i researched him on goooble. i found that he was an adult baby and diaper lover. do you really think he is out to help you and your child. he has had one site closed down. it was a site were he invited childen that were being punished with a diaper to join his private group.
to me that throws up a red flag. if you wanted to talk to children about diaper punnishment how would you do it? why not start a site were the parent forse the children wear diapers . that way you can you do not have to go out and do it your self. he evens tells you how to do it . he even tells you were to get supplies.

you make a child wear a diaper then you put locking plastic pantys on them. and you say it like putting on a band aid. then you make them use use it like a baby would.
one site had an article on it how to diaper train your child they said you set the child on a chair with just a diaper on and force them to drink water you keep it up till they use the diaper then you change it then you start all over. you keep it up till they lose all control over there body functions. this is not abuse?
like i said this man can not go out on the street to get children. so he has you parents bring them to him. then you have the child post on his site how and why they are being punished.
it a private site, its that way so no one can see whats going on. i have heard the children CRY and ask for it to STOP. yet no one want to get there hands dirty. he goes after parent that have tried every thing else . so they are willin to try any thing .
i have a site that i have started so children can come to and talk . the frist thing i did was to contact the local sheriff . they have there own user name and pass word.
i have al so made one for the fbi were they can come on site and look at the whole site all files.
my problem is getting help for the children over seas and in canada.
i still working on getting people who are willing to do the support part of the site. i have a place for the children [kids place] one for young adults and one for parents.
Apr 16, 2008
 To Anonymous
by: Francine

Anonymous, I couldn't agree with Darlene more; diaper discipline is NOT an answer! It is never the answer! It is abuse! And as for making your son wear diapers, even as your way to "calm him down", THAT IS DISGUSTING AND EMBARRASSING!!!!!!!!! I wouldn't even dress my own (future) kids in diapers when they'll get older! Your ignorance for diaper discipline is definitely showing...0_o
Apr 21, 2008
 Yes it is
by: Dave

I am now 45yrs old and at around 8 or 9yrs of age due to my mother leaving our steady home for a new life with the guy who was to become my brothers dad, I was first physically then mentally abused, he was a horrible man, at this time I had occasional wet nights, and he puersuaded my mother to put me back in nappies/diapers and told my younger sister that she was to let all the other kids in school know about me having to wear them, it,s hard to describe the feelings that one has when somthing like this happens, I was later, at around 10yrs old sexually abused, although I did,nt realise what was actually taking place at the time, by a total stranger, a male, somthing that I kept hidden for many years, these are only a couple of the things that I went through as a kid, and I am currently writing a book about my life, only last week I was seing yet another councillor, my one saving grace is that I met and married a wonderful girl and we are still together after 24yrs we never had any secrets and she was the only one up until recently that knew the full extent of the things that happened when I was a child, one of the biggest drawbacks to all of this is that I have always had a fear of sexual relationship, and that is a problem that only now I am getting help with, another oddity of these events is that I still find comfort in the occasional wearing of a nappy/diaper, although I do,nt consider my self an adult baby, outside of all this I have wonderful freinds, I am a kind hearted person and just like to make people happy.
So in response to the question about diaper discipline, I do not belive there is such a thing, I think it is abuse through shaming, which for many kids that have gone through this, forms only a fraction of the whole picture of their experiences.
Apr 21, 2008
 you are right
by: ronald f

dave as i read your story , i have to agree with you i have talked with a lot of children who have had to wear a diaper as discipline. i have not yet sean how it helped them. in fact most of them have it has done just the reverse. i wish i could get them to speak out. but they will not. the web sites that i have been on that support this type of punishment. the people take great delight in how hard they can make it on a child. they want the child to be put into diapers 24/7. they do it for the childs own good to protect them from the world. there is only one site thats trying to help. and that one is run by a group of young folks. they try to help each other and give each other support. i have to give them a hand i myself know how it fills to be punished in this way. so i reach out when ever i can and try to give them support. i have not been able to find any laws that say it can not be done. its seams to be a gray area . if any one knows of any laws that would help i would like to know. i know in the uk diaper discipline alone with petticoat punnishment use to be used a lot on you men. i still know of some that are subject to it. i have tried to report it. but i have not hade any luck. i have not talked to them latley my fourm went down and i have not been able to get it back
Apr 30, 2008
 Calm Down
by: Anonymous

I've been to the sites you're talking about and from what I've seen you can relax, they're not real. The people on them are all fetishists. The giveaway for you should have been the completely outrageous and unrealistic stories being passed around as "truth" and the equally outrageous personalities. While I don't doubt that diaper discipline is sometimes used in real life I would be shocked and appalled if it ever came close to the extremes that you find on those sites, and I would be just as surprised if it turned out that anyone on those sites really was punishing/being punished like they claim.
May 06, 2008
 Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

WARNING to those parents who use Diaper Discipline. I am an adult male 51 who experienced this as a child. As a result today, I visit professional dominatrixes to be diapered, put in female panties, and spanked. Think hard about what you are doing to your child. How would you like your child to be like me when they grow up, 51, never married, no children, and full of fetishes. Don't give me any baloney about it won't happen to your child. You have only to look at the sex industry to find out how popular infantilism is. Thank you for reading this.
May 06, 2008
 It's highly ambiguous at best.
by: JezuBellumAntiThesis

Most reasoning for Diaper Discipline seems to be "regressing the child/teenager in order to protect them from the world". Now while that might be plausible, perhaps even appropriate on a hardened criminal 16 or older... It's just plain ambiguous, and likely fairly harmful in any other scenario.

There's a term for such psychological discipline methods.

"Mind F**king".

And "Mind F**king" is something best left for those who deal with murderers and rapists, for whom brainwashing is not too terribly off the wall. But using this on kids... and TEENS?.

What ever happened to the right to privacy?
May 10, 2008
 in reply
by: ronaldf

the sites i have looked at are not the ab/dl sites these are fourms were parents come to for information about using a diaper to punish there children. on one site they belive a child should be put into a diaper 24/7 pull ups to school and diapers the rest of the time . the moderator i looked in to who he is. its a real group and look . his only intrest is seeing children put in to diapers. he knows it may turn them in to diaper lovers. yet he doses not care, his group is pro punishmet . even if the child has not done any thing wrong they should be diapered. now i have looked into the group. you can only get on to there site by invite. the frist time i was in the chatt room i was asked if i was going to use the locking plastic pantys. they are used so the child keeps the diaper on and so they have to use it. it is real and it is used a lot more then people think it is. i do not agree with this thinking. the diaper punishments i had as a child was bad enough yet to ad to it. the child know that they have to do it they have no choice. there is no one who can help them. it a private site. if you do not take part in the forum you are droped. no on can get on the site if they are not a member. new members are monitored to see if they are going to yous diaperdiscilpine. the person who does the web site is a it dercator at a hosipatal so he monitors url so if they are being checked into he can tell. i have not found a way to help yet . im not alowed on the site since i have tryed to help the kids. im still trying to help i hade a forum on a free site they could come to but it is down . again i belived it was hacked again i hope not. im working on geting a better site. but that will take time. and its some thing i will need help with. the one person said it not real. i beg to difer with them. its real if any one in law enforcemet is interested i will be willing to talk to them.
May 12, 2008
 Part 1/2
by: Anonymous

Dude, I know exactly which site you're talking about, I've been to it. Trust me, none of it is real. Just because people claim to be parents (or kids for that matter) doesn't mean they actually are. Just because they claim to use DD doesn't mean they actually are. You ever been to a bedwetting/incontience support forum before? You see the exact same stuff. People who claim to be kids forced into diapers as punishment by their parents in very bizarre, hard to believe stories. Except that on those boards the people making those claims get called out on them because the majority of people on them aren't fetishists and thus aren't tolerant of such BS.

To drive my point home, let's think about this logically for a minute:

- DD is a very work intensive form of punishment. Probably the single most demanding form of punishment really. It requires that the parent not only have to do everything necessary to take care of a baby but also to do that with a child/teenager against their will. That's extremely difficult and rather unappealing to the parent since they have to change diapers again among many other things. There's no way anyone would put up with that unless they had to. Even assuming they were turned on sexually by it they still wouldn't be likely to put up with it (I'm not guessing about that either. AB's sometimes try to get together to form a "parent"/"baby" relationship and while its always nice and dandy for the first few days, after the novelty wears off so does the relationship. They typically end before the second week).

- DD would also be very expensive thus making it even less appealing/feasible

- For a kid to be as badly behaved as the parents on the site claim would require them to have either oppositional-defiant disorder, conduct disorder, or antisocial personality disorder, none of which would react in even the slightest to any form of punishment. Even a normal kid wouldn't shape up as quickly as the parents on the site claim because discipline is a behavioral issue and behaviors take a long time to change.

- Speaking of which, ever notice how every kid on the site dramatically improves with the introduction of DD? And I don't mean gradual improvement, I mean "its been a week since we put Billy on DD and now all his problems are gone!" improvement. Again, completely unrealistic.

continued...
May 12, 2008
 Part 2/2
by: Anonymous

...continued

- Continuing on this theme of sudden, dramatic, unrealistic changes, let's talk about the fact that a lot of kids on the site tend to become incontinent within months, if not weeks. Total BS. ABDLs sometimes try to become incontinent and they always report that its nearly impossible unless you're 100% determined and willing to never hold anything back no matter what the circumstances and even then it always takes years, not months, to get to that point. Just wearing and using a diaper isn't going to magically make you lose bladder and bowel control, you have to work at it. If you always hold it then you're never going to lose control (barring disease, injury, old age, etc).

- Parents on the site also tend to take little, if any convincing, to use DD or make it harsher. This is also unrealistic. It's also unrealistic in terms of how quickly they move (in terms of ordering and receiving supplies, putting into action, progressing with the punishment. etc).

- The public humiliation also tends to be unrealistic. While its certainly feasible that a parent could take their kid into public wearing a diaper underneath their clothing its completely absurd to believe that they could get away with taking them into public dressed up as babies, in strollers, on reins, etc. or making a public show of DD since they would have cops all over them in no time at all.

- It doesn't take a genius to figure out that the guy leading the group is a fetishist. I mean, its really ****ing obvious. You talk three minutes to the guy and you'll find out he's an ABDL (as well as into S&M). I would think that most people would stop using DD upon the realization that the guy telling them to use it is a fetishist.

Now then, does this mean that its impossible that these things could actually be happening? No, of course not. Could one or two cases on the site be true? Yes, but they'd probably be on the more mild side of things. But even then we'd only be talking a few cases at most. The chances the majority of people on that site are telling the truth are so small that they may as well not even exist. Like I said before, I have no doubt that DD does happen. What I doubt is that DD ever reaches the absurd proportions detailed on the site you're talking about.

For the record, the two DD sites that you're talking about appear on the first page results of google. They're hardly hidden and are very well known by the ABDL community. And something that you seem to not be taking into account is that anyone can sign up. Yeah, it requires an invite but to get that invite all you have to do is say you're a parent. To think that the site isn't chock full of ABDLs is beyond naive.

Like you I was concerned when I first found out about the group but I was relieved to discover that it was all just the usual over-the-top fantasies that you find on explicit ABDL sites.
May 12, 2008
 Be critical about what you find on the Net
by: FurstiGrar

Let me get one thing straight: The only reason for me to put a diaper on a Child, is, when there is a medical reason for it (Bedwetting for example) and never as punishment.
Honest, who is not happy when he no longer has to change dirty diapers?
Another reality we have to acknowledge, is, that there are People who have fantasies about being forced into diapers, be humiliated that way and such things. Many of their fantasies deal with this done to them in their childhood. And some of them made web pages which fake such fantasies as real. The problem is that some people are so gullibly to take it for real and try it out. But to even encourage others to do so just for your own perverse enjoyment, that's just sick.

Is it legal? Well, most governments grant the Parents the right to choose how they raise their children to different extend. This may include beating them, restricting their freedom or excluding them from learning specific Topics. In most cases it is up to CPS to determine if it's abuse or not. Why not ask them?
May 17, 2008
 for the record
by: ronald f

the only way i found out that the man who ran the wed site was a ab/dl was to google his name. i saw his post in diapered and spanked children. it was not kind what he had to say to children that he did not even know. in that site he has been refured to as a child molester. he had a private site that he inviterd the children who said that they were being punished with a diaper to join . why was a single man about 30 on a web site . talking to children about diapers? i have done my home work . his past posts are on the web the sites he has left posts at. most sites want web traffic so they make the site so a web clawer can . search the site. i belone to some fourms for web masters. i have seen how they do it. now you are trying to take the heat off from diaper discipline? you talk about the ab/dl coumminty i know the local law about diaper discipline. i also know about groups that have been in the past. they were stopped . this is not the frist round and i'm sure it's not the last one . yes any one can get on the web sites. i do not belive every thing i see on the web. to me you sound like you know some thing about the ab/dl coumminty. and you are trying to take the heat off childrens diaper discipline. i may be wrong . but i will keep the heat on . even if its just a few cases. there should not be even one case. soon the local police will have the information that i have and we will scort it all out. the information is out there and it's not hard to find. if you want you can tell the kids that there is some one who cares. and thinks this is wrong.
May 18, 2008
 yes and no
by: ronaldf

i do know that diaper discipline does go. on not to the point that is said on the sites. i fill i have to bring atention to it. there are to many parents out there that are looking for a quick fix, for the behavior problems that there children have face. they seam to be willin to try anything, as long as chip is out there spreading his crap . i will be telling people what it is . i relise there a lot of un real stories that are on the web. what is real is there is a man out there who is spreading it as a way to discipline children. and there are parents who try it. i have known some that have. it is not a quick fix. no one can know how it fills, it started in the 1960 as a way to punish children with out spanking them. i do not talk about some things. they are private. BUT i will fight to make sure that it does not happen to any one else. anonymos make some good points. no i have not been to a bed wetters support group. it's good they have them now my dad belived that only babys and girls wet the bed and i was dressed in a diaper and/our a dress. i do not want to get in to that. it's not about me. its about whats going on in that group . even if one parent takes his advise. think how it would harm the child, he needs to be stopped.
i have information about him that as soon as i get it done it will be given to law enforcement. i hope to be able to make a case to close his site down. and to stop him from spreading his posion.
if any one wants to help they are invited to help. there have been people like him before. and they have been stoppped. how a adult choises to dress in private is up to them. but for a man to get on the web and tell parents that this is a cure all for there childs behavior problems. i know of a few cases were it was tryed. thank god the children are with people who love them and care. there are other chips out there. some of them parents . they say that it is not AB/DL site but to talk about punishing a child in this faction is . how do i put it. parents there are no quick fixes. if you child has problems get them help, do not listen to some nut on the web, i relize that it might be hard to admit they may have a problem. but look in to it
May 20, 2008
 DD is abuse
by: dave

Of course DD is a form of abuse, in the short term, yes it will calm an errant child down, through the ritual shaming of this treatment, and to the person administering this form of "discipline" ( although this is a word I use lightly ) it will be seen as a result, and therfore it will be used again, however,, it is what is actually happening inside that childs mind, and the long term emotional effects that this sort of treatment can lead to, that is questionable, as a victim of this treatment I speak with experience here, and although this forms only part of the over all picture of what happened to me as a kid, I feel that it is thispart that has effected me most, and for all the wrong reasons, so I would say to any person who decides that this treatment is an option, if you really love your child, then think twice befor going ahead, you may be screwing them up for life, this treatment has left me with a life long dependency on wearing diapers, when ever I get down or feeling insecure, fortunately I am married to a wonderful person who was able to bring out the better qualities in me,with lots of love and patience, but unfortunately a lot of people wo,nt be as lucky, and the long term effects of this treatment will make their lives missery.
May 20, 2008
 RE: Diaper Discipline as Sexual Abuse
by: Thomas

Hello?

I have been trying to follow the comments made on this question, and from my point of view, "Diaper Discipline", is childhood sexual abuse. I am age 50, and it was done to me as a toddler/preschooler, for "misbehavior & toileting accidents". I was also physically tied into my playpen, & my crib, long after babyhood, during the times, when my Mom was too strung-out on Vallium, to even "care for me" - as a means of confining controlling me.

I was also an Undiagnosed Autistic developmentally-disabled child, and @ the time, for close to 3 years, from ages 2-5, I mostly lost my capacity to speak, both due to the Autism, and the abuse/neglect I suffered.

The abuse I suffered decades ago, also caused me to have developed that darn "ABy" behavior in me, which I can not control very well, my "regression", and has left me a "psychological cripple", compounding my having finally been correctly diagnosed @ age 47, with Autism (High Functioning)/Asperger's Syndrome.

I experience PTSD flashbacks a lot of being forcibly kept in diapers until age 5, plus acts of sexual molestation/torture perpetrated on my while being tied by my wrists & ankles by my Mom, onto the potty chair/torture chair who filally passed-away in March this year.

My Mom was a never properly diagnosed Disassociative Identity Disorder/Bipolar Disorder
person, who was a psychopath, and who herself, was sexually molested/tortured when she was a preschooler/toddler. She had had a brain scan done on her, a few months before she passed-away, revealing, that her brain, was "missing" the neural connections related to right/wrong/morality.

Anyway, I am a "mess", permanently on SSDI disability, and "just trying to survive, day-to-day with my problems/autism developmental disability.

Also, never dated, never married, unable to anyway...

Thomas
Jun 12, 2008
 RE: Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

I am not in favor of Diaper Discipline, since it was "used on me", a "High-Functioning" developmentally-disabled person with Asperger's Syndrome/Autism.

All it does, is create a person like me, who @ Age 50, wets & poops in diapers, & is no longer toilet trained, plus sleeps with stuffed animals & plays with "Baby Toys", ect.

Just do not do this to a child, or the way I am, is the "result".

Thomas
Jun 12, 2008
 have read your comments
by: ronaldf

have read your comments and i hope others are watching anr reading this. i hope that the word gets out about diaper displine and what it does to children. in the short term it might get results but it the long term when the child has serious mental problems. the more i think about the diaper displine site. i have sean a lot of children who have been abused. the things a parent would go to abuse a child is un real. would you as a parent subject your child to s and m? if you do as the one group tell you . thats what it amounts to force the child into a diaper, put locking plactic pantys on them . and force them to use the diaper. they tell you the will be a few weeks of crying and yelling then they will stat behaving becaue they have come to relize that you are doing it for there own good. bull s**t/ they stop cry because they have given up . they relize there is nothing theg can do. few people can under stand what it is like to set the in a diaper and be called a baby. and treated like a baby. what affect it has on a childs mind. i hope any one who has a story will tell it . they need to be told. they need to be heard
Jun 16, 2008
 To Ronald F:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I'm posting this in an effort to release your comment currently trapped in queue for this submission; there has been a system glitch that has yet to be completely resolved for this particular page. My sincere apologies for the delay in getting your comment to appear on this page, Ronald. Rest assured, I'm monitoring the situation very closely.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Jun 16, 2008
 to darlene
by: ronald f

thank you for running it. please check your system real well. my fourm site that was to help the kids is down due to hackers. i have had a real problem with one . the man who does the web work for the diaper displinesite.com is a IT director at a hospital. he is real good at it . HAD A REAL PROBLEM WITH MY SITES SINCE I CAME OUT , AGAINST WHAT THEY WERE DOING. the children have tryed start a diaper discipline site , they are trying to get parents to be less harsh, in the punishment, they fill if there is some one else to listen to . the parents will listen and try it. they have a private childrens forum . were only they can come and talk there site is about dead , wish i could do more for them but i will not take part in advising parents how to punish them. the children? i have an other forum site i'm looking for people who can help any children that comes on to the site. if you would like to help let me know and i will give you the address. the only place i have posted it is on the kids site. we will see if any want help. wish there was a way to get it out to others but i have to screen the people who would like to help. i will also have to screen those who ask for help. there are others who are trying to help i can not reveal at this time who they are and what they are doing they are working in side the group. do not want to wreck what they are trying to do. if you know any one who can help them let me know. you can e mail me you have the address it not you can post on your site and i will send it to you
ronald
Jun 22, 2008
 do you under stand how forums work
by: ronald f

in talking about diaper discipline i wonder if any one understans how the forums work. when you sigu up you are put into a group. this group is given permisions to see what they want you to see. say for intenct you say you are interested in using diaper displine on your child. you will be told how well it works . you will see stories on how it helped other children. you will be told were to get sulppys . you will begiven advise how to go about it. they will make it look like a good thing a way to help your child. they do not talk about the long term affects it has on the child. how it can tunk them into a ad/dl. our how it affect ther mental state, just how it helps your child and how good they will behave. there a lot more that needs to be said about the group and i will . it will take time.
Jul 06, 2008
 Reality vs Appearance
by: Robert P.

***Post moved by Darlene Barriere - Webmaster to Diaper Discipline: Reality vs Appearance on my child abuse articles page on this site.***
Jul 06, 2008
 To Robert P:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for such an insightful post, Robert (post above titled Reality vs Appearance). Do I have your permission to remove it from this thread as a comment in order to treat it as its own article on my Child Abuse Articles page? It's too valuable to leave it here, and it would reach far more people treating it as a stand alone article.

If you could let me know your answer by commenting through this thread, I would appreciate it. I'll understand if you decide against it.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Jul 06, 2008
 Permission
by: Robert P.

Thank you for seeing the value in my comments. These came from the heart and from my own life experiences. You honor me with your request and have my permission to do as you think best. I really hope it saves some child out there. God bless for all that you are doing.
Jul 07, 2008
 To Robert P.
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for your permission, Robert. I'll take it from here.

And just for the record, I see value in ALL your contributions, Robert.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Jul 08, 2008
 Yes it is
by: John

I have lived with it for 40 years. There is no good that comes from Diaper Discipline and those that say there is must be in the Adult Baby fetish. I was 12 when I was put into diapers for 8 weeks in the summer. It was as if I was turned into a toddler. I was re-introduced to bottles, pacifiers, a playpen in which I slept at night, and ate my meals in a high chair. I celebrated my 13th birthday as a baby, along with baby toys and gifts. It was a horrible time in my life. My mom had 5 siblings and each of them had 4-5 kids apiece and I was the 4th oldest of all of them. I was treated as a toddler in from of them. Even had to get diaper changes like the rest of the real babies on the living room floor or sofas.

This is abuse of some of the worst form. It destroys esteem and literally made me hate my parents. I have only a few family relationships
because I would not subject myself to constant ridicule. Therefore I stayed away from even my own brothers and sisters when I moved out at age 18.

The answer is Yes! it is child abuse.
Jul 09, 2008
 Even AB/DL's don't want this.
by: Maulkin

I'm an AB/DL (I wear diapers for fun), but I gotta say... this is just sick. If I had never developed the desire to wear diapers at a young age (I think it was around twelve, not sure) and my parents were to put me into diapers, I would have hated them. I would have refused to wear them, and if they had physically forced me to use them I would have responded with violence. I cannot imagine a more demeaning 'punishment' to put a child through, especially if they're made to wear them at school as well.

If the kid wants to wear diapers as some sort of emotional outlet and the parents agree to it, fine (well do I understand how unfilfilled emotional needs can harm a child). And, if the kid is wetting the bed and other methods (sleep alarms, plastic bedsheets) don't work, that is also acceptable. But to force a fully continent kid into diapers against their will for misbehavior? No. There are more effective forms of conditioning out there (positive and negative reinforcement), and diapering a kid will only breed hate and misery in his heart. It is nothing short of child abuse, and must be illegal.
Jul 11, 2008
 RE: Further Thoughts on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

As I said before, this punishment is all about mind manipulation, control, humiliation, & devaluation of a child, by making him/her "be a baby again".

Although as an adult with Asperger's Syndrome/HFA lifelong developmental disability, it was done to me, causing me to be now "in diapers 24/7", emotionally (& medically).

My "recently deceased" Mom who did this to me from age 2 to 5 years old, herself was a "messed up" mentally-ill person, who made life "Hell" for me, from early childhood onward, & although she is dead now, I am "scarred for life", & "trapped" in "ABy behavioral mode", when I get "too cognitively overloaded", from sensory input oveload, which is a part of being autistic.

She wanted to have a lifelong "baby", & unfortunately "she got one", "me", & I will pay for it the rest of my adult life.

Sinceely,

Thomas
Jul 12, 2008
 I'm glad to see the response
by: ronald f

i'm glad to see so many people responding to this when you put diaperdispline in the search engine this is on the frist page. so maybe people will read it. yes there should be a law but i have not found one. as far as the web site they have the frist admendment right to free speech. this is what i have been told the local sherrif has not been able to get on to there site . what is needer is for the children to speek put but they do not. i would like to thank robert for telling his story. my goal is to help these children. i'm not sure how .
i was made to wear diapers as a child. along with having to wear dresses. i will not go into the details . like i have said this is not about me its about trying to get help for some children that need it. if any one in law enforsement would like to talk . i would like to talk to you. i can show you who is who.
if darline knows of any one who can help these children let me know . we can tell how bad it is and say how wrong it is all day long but that does not help those who need it now i ask what can we do to help those who need it?
ronald f
Jul 12, 2008
 diaper discipline
by: Anonymous

Humm I had never thought about it that way.
I have and do have my boy who is now 11 wear Goodnites to bed do to the fact he wets at night.
After taking him to the doctor and talking with his mother we decided it was just his change in life and he would grow out of it.
as for making my boy who I am so proud of wear a diaper 24/7 that is crazy.
Is what we are doing wrong???????
I hope not and I hope I am not going to cause him and harm, I just think if he cant make it to the bathroom at night at his age the extra protection is to help him and make him feel safe.
Jul 13, 2008
 Goodnights for wetting
by: Maulkin

Having your son use goodnights for wetting is fine - after all, if he cannot make it to the bathroom and other methods have been tried, it's the only option. If he doesn't like that, ask him if he can think of any alternatives (thus showing him that you don't want to punish him or hurt him, but that you see no other way).

Of course, you might want to consider "Under Jams" - they fit more like real underwear than Goodnights, and thus are easier to hide.
Jul 15, 2008
 How Would A Child Know if DD is Child Abuse?
by: MJ

Here is a suggestion for how a Child could find out if DD is ok or child abuse.

I grew up in an abusive family but because I didn’t know anything else I thought it was normal. My parents loved me but had big parenting problems.

I suggest that if you are being threatened with or in DD you tell people you trust (parents of friends, teachers, police, child help lines, whatever …) and ask what they think.

Normal family discipline (eg getting grounded) is common and nothing to keep secret about.

Are you expected to keep DD secret or are you allowed to tell anyone you wish?

If the answer is ‘secret’ then this is evidence for DD being child abuse – even though it may be well intentioned.

Additional comments from Darlene Barriere - Webmaster:

While I don't disagree that the requirement or need to keep the discipline "secret" is a reasonable measuring stick to determine if the method, in this case diaper discipline, being imposed may be child abuse, unfortunately the authorities and child protection agencies do not see things this way. For more on this complex issue, please refer to my article titled Diaper Discipline, Child Abuse and Secrets on this site.
Aug 09, 2008
 RE: Further Thoughts on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

Hello?

Was just thinking more about how pre-school age "diaper discipline" caused me to end-up becoming a "full-blown" "Adult Baby" since age 28 (now age 50)

:-(

It is sad, that as a mildly developmentally disabled adult, I much of the time "hide myself away" in my bedroom of the family home, & just "mutely" play with my soft plush animals & baby toys, ect., "wearing just a diaper & a vinyl juvenile-print bib", each & every day, when not going out doing chores around the house, or yard, or going on errands for my elderly Dad who never abused me & my 46 year-old younger brother, who was "never diaper disciplined".

Not funny, being "damaged for life" emotionally.

Only way I "feel" "loved & wanted" "in this world", is just "hiding myself away", & "being a baby", & "wishing" to be "locked-away for good" in an "institution" with other developmentally disabled people, & "confined to a steel crib", to be "helpless & cared for by others".

Many "real" babies are loved & wanted, but when I was a baby, toddler & preschooler, "I was not loved or wanted" by my psychopathic Mom.

Feel like a "freak"...sort-of.

Wish others, would "understand", that my "Inner Child" to use the psychological term, is "permanently fused" "on the outside" into my "very core" psychological makeup.

As an adult, I always experience "terrible fear & trepidation", every time "Amber Alerts" go off.

As an "adult survivor" of child abuse (Neglect/Physical/Sexual/Emotional), I am @ my age of 50, a "hyper-protector of children".

Thomas
Aug 10, 2008
 people do know
by: ronald f

thomas people do know and do care thats. why i streated this tread. i wanted people to be able to hear the affect that diaper discipline has on a person. there is a right and a wrong way to discipline a child. i'm not against discipline. but i will not set back and let children be abused and not speak out.
Aug 11, 2008
 Thank You Ronald
by: Thomas

Just got back to the Kelley Library here in Salem, New Hampshire to read my e-mail from my contacts in the autism/asperger's syndrome disability community online.

I can say, that my profoundly scarred Inner Child, "fused" on my exterior, is slowly starting to heal.

My own disability social worker/couselor in Derry, New Hampshire has been working with me these last 3 years, to "accept", my being an Adult Baby, & live the rest of my life, as best I can, as a "retired" adult on SSDI.

This morning, I experienced "genuine" happiness, while doing a couple chores for my elderly father, & between doing chores, mutely playing with my child's wooden railway toy trains, that I put together in the Den room of my family home. My own younger "normal" brother, as a person, just "wants me to be happy", & f I need to "play like a baby/toddler", I am free to do so, all alone by myself.

As I said before, my mentally-deranged Mom "wanted her very own 'living' baby dolly", & through Diaper discipline, she "got her wish".

My next SSDI cheque is coming soon, & other than paying my own "adult bills", I have to use it to purchase disposable diapers/underpads, diaper rash cream, baby wipes, ect., because I have no bladder control whatsoever, since I was 28 years old, & now in the last year, I have also mostly lost total control of my bowels. Daily, I barely make it to the toilet, but many times, I totally mess my diaper.

:-(

Grown-up/Baby?

Well, diaper discipline, creates a "spilt" in one's psychological makeup. When not an adult, I "act like a baby", & when I am not a baby, I "act like an adult", albeit, one, who has a cognitive socialknowledge/experience capacity of a child, due to the neurological deficits of Asperger's Syndrome.

Thomas
Aug 25, 2008
 The ends do not justify the means.
by: Chad

Diaper discipline is sick and abusive. Even if it helps the child be more well behaved it is not worth it given the long term psychological damage that it causes. "The ends do not justify the means." In my opinion humiliation is on the same level as rape in terms of the emotional damage that it causes to a person. Any parent that would practice this form of discipline is either a sadist, or has absolutely no emotional intelligence and is extremely lazy and does not want to deal with the problem in the way that a responsible parent should. Any parent that would do this should have their children taken away from them.
Sep 01, 2008
 Thank you.
by: Anonymous

My boyfriend was researching infantilism because of my tendency to act like a child sometimes, when he discovered the topic diaper discipline, and this page in particular. I have little to add on the topic except to say that I agree that DD amounts to abuse, that much seems logical.

I just wanted to say thank you to those who have taken the time to share their stories, your transparency and honesty will help to break the barriers of ignorance and denial in society that allow attrocities such as this to continue.

All the best

xxx
Sep 02, 2008
 Further comments on Diaper Discipline
by: Thomas

Hello Everyone!

A further thing to add, is that one only has to type in "Adult Baby" or "infantilism", & one gets "deluged" with "Soft Porn" websites with stories of "diaper discipline, real or "imagined".

Since males like us are "hard-wired" in utero for darn fetish behaviors, having "Diaper Discipline" used on us, just opens up the "floodgate" to being an "Adult Baby/Diaper Fetishist" later in life, post-puberty.

Being autistic with asperger's Syndrome, with added "Adult Baby" behavior, is not "curable".

As I said before, one ends up being what the "CSI" tv show crime guys call a "freak", as depicted in the episode, "King Baby", which got CBS network fined for "indecency".

Thomas
Sep 21, 2008
 Diapering as Discipline?
by: just a guy in Michigan

Great idea "if your child misbehaves" emotionally abuse them and risk scaring them for life! In what world lacking common sense and ignorant parents would this be an acceptable form of discipline?

I found this link and as an adult that was in youth subjected to a similar mental abuse as a child, was reading about the physiological effects of such treatment. I've toyed with fetishes and read about many others that have the common theme of an abuse having the affect of giving the one subjected an "unnatural or uncommon attractions" to the things or situations that stem from such events. In short "a traumatic experience" even if the parent in their ignorance didn't expect a lasting effect. If you read about fetishes, you'll see how many likely stem from childhood abuses, those that "enjoy" Infantilism, or being treated like an adult baby, those that have what others would consider freak attractions to stuffed animals or "furries", balloons, being submissive in a Sub/dom relationships , and the list goes on. My point is that the mind of a child sometimes takes a traumatic event, mental or physical abuse and the pain or humiliation of it, if not buried in the subconscious, or forgotten, may even resurface as a fetish as a manner of coping.

We as adults are a sum of experiences and how we choose to cope with those that were stressful, and although disciple is of course necessary, diapering someone to prove a point that you can physically or mentality dominate them, is simply cruelty and risks psychological damage.

If you search for fetishes, you'll no doubt find one for nearly anything imaginable, forums that support the activity no matter how "uncommon or unnatural", and a lot of emotionally scared people out there that pursue their attraction to fetishes simply because they felt alone or alienated in their behavior, only to realize that like fetishes there is also no end to the number of people that were abused, to those that will continue to abuse others, and of course those that will do everything possible to profit from it.

If you're considering punishing your child in such a manner that you have to ask others if it's acceptable, your answer should be your own common sense if you ask yourself if you honestly believe that if YOU were humiliated or abused it would make you a better person.

If you're reading this post because you have an uncommon fetish,you can choose to explore it, its psychological origins, discontinue it and not let it be a controlling factor in your current or cause for lack of relationships and essentially "re-program yourself" if you feel that you are somehow a slave to its pursuit.

Take this with a grain of salt, as I am also of the opinion that variety is the spice of life, and exploring new ideas, even if not completely mainstream, can be fun and life is short, as long as it doesn't harm another person and your partner is willing to give it a try.
Sep 21, 2008
 Positive Results?
by: Ray

Good letter Michigan! Sometimes I read things that support diaper discipline and quote some story where it "worked." Lots of things seem to work but are quite destructive without being immediately evident. I like analogies. The Atkins Diet will work. It will accomplish weight loss but it has no regard for your physical health. It is an acidic diet that poisons the human body. In ancient times people drilled holes to release "evil spirits" for the mentally ill and some people got "better" from the treatment. How about they got better in spite of the treatment and not because of it. For any of you parents that think diaper discipline works or had some positive result on your child, think again. Whatever behavior benefit you got from it made your life easier and not your child's.
Sep 22, 2008
 RE: A lot of good points made here!
by: Thomas

Just wanted to say, that a lot of "good points" have been made here on the subject of "Diaper Discipline".

One can also say, that "Diaper Discipline" is a major factor in development of "Infantilism/Adult Baby Behavior" in adulthood.

Using this as a means of discipline, "always makes a mess", & not just in the "child victim's" diapers he was "forced to wear" & urinate & defecate into - like a baby by his (or her) parents.

Thomas
Sep 25, 2008
 A few things here.
by: JAB

1. I don't condone this form of discipline by any means.

2. I am an Adult Baby. I am a woman. I didn't have this discipline done on me. I did have a father who was not great and I'm sure that somehow led to me being who I am today. I don't hate who I am though. I think Adult Babies are perfectly okay when the person has the right kind of mindset. I am a fully functional adult. I work full time, go to school full time. I am married to a man who does act in a parenting role at times with me. I think it's a healthy outlet for myself, considering the alternative things that could have happened to me. I wouldn't change it for the world. Then again, I have a realistic view on the whole subject. A lot of ABs don't, unfortunately.

3. I know a lot of other ABs and I MUST point out that the majority (I would even say 99.9%) of ABs do NOT in any WAY WHATSOEVER condone doing anything to/with minors. They don't condone parents abusing minors. We are very loving people who are considerate of other people. I did bring up diaper discipline to other people I know b/c I accidentally stumbled on it and it made me sick to my stomach. A lot of the people who do these sites do not condone people who are adult babies or have a diaper fetish(there is a difference. ABs are not always doing it as a sexual thing. It's not sexual for me). Yet, they are creating children who will engage in the behavior. It's bad news all around.

4. While I may be an AB, I am one for a reason. I didn't get the type of parenting I should have as a child and seek the love and affection I missed out on as an adult. It helps me be an adult. I do love myself very much, but it is a rough life and it is difficult for other people to understand you and it is difficult to be yourself around others. I would never wish that someone would have to feel like that if it is avoidable. Some people get this way not by abuse and that's fine, but abuse does help trigger this type of behavior. I don't feel it is conducive to a teenager, especially since this is a time where sexual likes and dislikes are developed. It could totally go wrong.

Sorry if it seems all over the place. People do get confused about people involved in my lifestyle and we are not at all into disciplining actual children or anything with actual children. We feel like children ourselves and understand that need to be safe, so we would never ever wish that upon a real life minor.

I hope it makes sense. I'm not that great at expressing myself on such a sensitive issue here.

Note from Darlene: JAB, I'd say you did a great job expressing yourself. And you showed a great deal of discretion, too.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Sep 28, 2008
 thank you jkd
by: RONALD F

you expressed you self well. and i would like to thank you.
the pareting we recive as children make us who we are. if we are showed love and shown how to behave, thats how we act. if we are shown abuse that how we act.
as far as the sites i refure, to one is about using diaper discipline on boys ,the server is in New York it belongs to a male diaper lover group. i have not been able to see what they are about it's in german group, from the pitures, and what little german i know i would say its a gay diaper site. the other site is run by a man in the us . he is a ab/dl he doses not say this on his site. but if you gobble his name you can find his post, at other sites . there use to be a site called diaper and spanked kids. his posts show up there. he was real abuse to then. he hab a web site were he would invite the children who were in diapers to . his own private site. the sign up page was hiden so you had to have a invite. he has been called a child molster on the web. if darline wants i will give her his name so she can check it out her self.
now back to the subject we learn from our parents, some times its what we do not learn that we go looking for it took me years to learn that. i do not belive a person has the right to abuse children . yet its going on, its not in the open, you can not go to the site and see, if you could it would be closed. you can ask for a invite, and they will probliy give you one. but they use a forum software , they use whats called group, permissions. ist not a open site, they control what you see, this way no one finds out what is going on. some of the kids tried to start an other site. were the abuse was not alowed. but it did not go over , i belive is is now closed. i tried to start a fourm site were they could come to for help. i invited the fbi, the local dhr office (you know it as child protivice services), and the local sheriff , to be part of it, yet i got no one who would help. if i could get law enforsement, and people who could give the children help, i would get the forrm back up. but it would take more then me and a few kids to do it. like i have stated before what are we going to do about this abuse. its good that darline has a site were we can come and tell about absue. but is it time as parents we step up and say enough, i relize that there, are all scort of sites were a parent can go and get advise. the diaper discipline site is one .
we have the frist admendmet right to free speech in the US. but what right do these children have, none as i see it. its not only children in the united states, the boy i talked about was in the uk. i know of children in france, mexico. canada, al in the uk. there parents all come to this one web site for informatin. if you use the locking plastic pants they can only be got from one company. its in the same state as the man who has the diaper discipline site. both web sites share informatiom one would think that there is a link
RONALD F
Oct 01, 2008
 To Ronald F...
by: Thomas

Hello?

You have quite a few good points made.

I have myself seen some of the web pages of "predators", disguising themselves as ABy's.

Makes me hyper angry as an autistic adult & ABy, since I have always been a hyper-protector of children.

Even as a 50 year-old adult, I can tell you, that due to diaper discipline/sexual abuse, whenever I have visited my primary care doctor, who has had to "examine me", I have up & let out a "wail of terror", when my doctor (a female), has had to undo my adult-sized diaper & plastic pants during physical exams.

Also have seen, that some online suppliers of incontinence products for adults, also cater to Infantilists/Adult Babies.

Difficult to live with myself being an Adult Baby, but I just "hide myself away", & always pray, that children, do not get diaper discipline done to them.

As I said before, Have always intermittently felt like a freak, & a "very bad boy".

I say, go after the "predators" posing as Adult Babies...

Thomas
Oct 04, 2008
 It is torture
by: Steffy

***Comment removed by Darlene Barriere - Webmaster***

Note from Darlene: Steffy, I removed your comment because I have a strict policy about including website URLs and email addresses in comments. To do so in the post you left on this diaper discipline thread would be to encourage my visitors to visit such sites, which would effectively give such websites a vote of confidence from my site; I will not do that. Thank you for your understanding.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Oct 04, 2008
 Juvenile Probation's view
by: Anonymous

Here is the bottom line folks. SOME of this MAY have happened in the 1950s.... And many of those children, now in thier 50s and 60s are the same fetishests (victims) that still continue to domonate the vast majority of these discusssions.

But as a former Juvenile Probation Officer, I CAN tell you this: If ANY of this type behavior with REAL children came to lighttfo most ANY state Probation Officer, your child WOULD be removed imeadiately (if temporarilly) until an official child service/welfare autority fully investigated the alligation. And upon any subsequent finding of probable cause, your child would remaiun in state custody; and you would INDEED be charged and arriagned under existing Child Abuse statutes. This would be a FACT in most every US state, not to mention almost every other modern/western cililization througout the world. All the rest is bull crap grouned in sexual fantasy, real or contrived.
Oct 04, 2008
 Some cases
by: Anonymous

From the crazy discipline site:

Eighteen year old girl still accepting being diapered and naked to her parents and locked in sex toys plastic panties

Guy whose name starts with W straitjackets his daughter and double diapers her (ieven ball gags the child)

Phd lecturer actually diapers his 10 year old daughter without his wife's knowledge
Oct 04, 2008
 Right On
by: Robert P.

Finally, someone sees through some of this fantasy mumbo-jumbo. What started out as an attempt to educate caretakers not to use this form of discipline has turned into just another AB/DL forum. I'm sorry this is happening because there are enough AB/DL sites for that. What this site is aimed at is preventing abuse, not a place to explore fetish fantasies.

I took the chance and exposed my life experiences with much reluctance in hopes it would really make a difference. Again, I say this is far more than just abuse. It is the destroying of a childs self image and future developements. PLEASE keep this in mind and don't use this site to air your fantasies or fetish dreams. Some of you are being truthful but others aren't and they know who they are. Those of use who really went though this humiliation can tell the difference in how you express yourselves.
Oct 05, 2008
 could the person contact me
by: ronald f

is there a way for the person who was a juvenile probation officer be given my email address . i would like to talk to them. there is one site i would like looked in to. it may turn out to be a bunch of bull. then it may not. if its not then some thing will need to done in a legal way. i can tell the differne between a ab/dl story. i strated this to inform parents not to be taken in by the group that promate this type of punishment. i do know of a few cases were it has been used. and i would like it checked out.

i went looking on the web for parenting ideals . i have looked in to a lot of subjects . then i went to see who the people were that was giving the advise.i would not be so vocial if i did not fill that it was real .
ronald f
Oct 13, 2008
 would you tell
by: RONALD F

i would like to thank those who have shared there stories. most people who have had diaper displine used on them do not want to talk. about it. most do not. i speak up for the children, because they do not. most are told that they deserve the punnishment that they are reciving . they do not have any place to turn to. i tried to give them a place on the web but i have shut it down. i could not get them the help that they needed. no one took it serious. so i have tried to bring light of what being done to them. most people when i tell them about it think, im talking about a porn site. this group has had a web site for a good number of years. it started out as a way for parents to share information about the use of diaper displine on there children. it has turned into more then that now. but no one will belive that it. goes on. i do not know how many children it is used on. i do know that the web site had over 300 members when i looked to see what it was about.i belive what the young folks told me. i wish they would speak out. but would you, risk it, knowing if you were found out ,things would get worse for you.
thats the big question would you tell. think about it. were are they to turn. there is no real law. there is a law about spanking a child. every state has one. darline do you know places were they could turn to get help. think about it .

to darline how do you fill on the subject. i can give you the e mail address of a young person she said she 18 now 19 she and some others treid to start the other web site. she has tried to help the others. i will let you form your own ideals about what needs to be done

From Darlene: Ronald, you've approached me about this before. My position on the matter has not changed. I offered you space on my site to take this cause on yourself; you declined, and I respect that. I would appreciate the same respect with regard to my answer. I have all I can possibly handle with this website and the way I operate it. Please understand that.

I thank you for thinking of me as a conduit for change with regard to diaper discipline with children.

Darlene Barriere
Violence & Abuse Prevention Educator
Author: On My Own Terms, A Memoir
Oct 21, 2008
 Rights of the Child
by: Adrian

Note: I admit I am a ABDl (no horror stories or anything.. just became interested in it) but, like most of the people in this community and the world, I am dedicated to the protection of children. I just stumbled across this diaper discipline and was horrified that children are put through this. This "discipline" (sadistic punishment can't really be called discipline) is at complete conflict with the Rights of the Child.

I also believe that these sites are just the more depraved and disgusting ABDLs and it completely sucks that people would associate my lifestyle choice with... these... things.

I did a quick scan of the CRC document to find these breaches.

However, it has to be noted that the US has not signed this document.

Principle 2
The child shall enjoy special protection, and shall be given opportunities and facilities, by law and by other means, to enable him to develop physically, mentally, morally, spiritually and socially in a healthy and normal manner and in conditions of freedom and dignity. In the enactment of laws for this purpose, the best interests of the child shall be the paramount consideration.

Article 8
2. Where a child is illegally deprived of some or all of the elements of his or her identity, States Parties shall provide appropriate assistance and protection, with a view to speedily re-establishing his or her identity.

Article 16
1. No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.

Article 31
1. States Parties recognize the right of the child to rest and leisure, to engage in play and recreational activities appropriate to the age of the child and to participate freely in cultural life and the arts.

Article 37
States Parties shall ensure that:
(a) No child shall be subjected to torture or other cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment
Oct 23, 2008
 you would think
by: ronald f

you would think that people would want to protect children. i have read the childrens rights artical i have a copy of it printed out, in this country children seam to treat children like they are proptery. they have no voice to speak out. i know how these children fill. i say that as one who has been forced to wear diapers. if a parent does not want the child they should be able to give them up no questions asked. in some states you can give up a baby. in one state there it does not state a age limit and some children as old as 14 have been left at a hospital.the united states has a long way to go in the way some of its children are treated.
because children have no voice i fill i must speak out for them ,
dariene i was not asking you to take on the battle about diaper discipline . i was just asking if you would check into. people seam to daught that it is being done as i say it is.

Note from Darlene: Thank you for clearing things up, Ronald.
Dec 12, 2008
 I wear nappys and I am 49
by: Anonymous

my dad and mam always put me in nappies right till the day I left home at 24 because I could not aford to leave before then.

I would nearly everyday get a nappy spanking and corner time, I was not a bad girl but it gave them pleasure, and if I did what they said they did not charge me board, but it was so hummilating to be put in a nappy and sent in the corner. If in the corner I had to use my nappy and wore a nappy everynight for bed the results are my fear and need for nappys for sercurity.
Dec 30, 2008
 xd that dont happen to me
by: Anonymous

im a 16 year boy and i would never let them put me in diapers. Yes they can be stronger but accidents at home can happen say what u want to say but i can do that and i know that i dont mind what u can think
Jan 24, 2009
 STILL HERE
by: RONALD F

Still here I,m still fighting for the kids. I have had to step back. And regroup. When i was coming up diapers were used in place of being spanked. They did not leave any black and blue marks.
There was a group that did diaper discipline but it was not what this group is promting. It was tried as a way to help familys. It was done under a mental doctor care the familys that took part in the program had to go to what was called a sestion were they talked to the doctor the childrens mental health was watched. And no one was abused

Now there is a person who is a ab/dl. That has a web site to promote the use of diaper discipline as a way to punnish children. His site is set up were you have to be invited to be on it. It is set up in forum style. Were users are given group permissions. They only see what they want you to see. They are real carefull in just what you see untill they fill you can be trusted. They have a chatt room were you can go and ask questions. They will tell you haw well it works and that it has no long affect on the children. The children can come on and post why they are being punished. I have been able to talk to some of them. On a diffrent site that is now closed. The children tried to start there own site were the parents would discipline in a caring loving faction.
They did not put up with abuse, on the site. When i say children i mean young people 18 to 25. They treid but it was no go.
It is hard to get people to change how they think. They do not take time to be a family, they punish children in stead of teaching them. They seam to think pain will make children behave????
This diaper discipline group is about child abuse the group that prmotes this discipline is about child abuse it plain and simple. It is away for a man and a small group of people to talk to children and help put them into diapers. There is no councial sections the childrens mental health is not checked. In fact the when asked they say its up to you. Just put the child into diapers it will make them behave. Thers is more that should be said and i have not figured out how to do it. I would like to find a way to get this group looked in to. I have found places like this you can tell your story. But there seam to be no people who want to help our even look in to this group.
I know the affect it has on the children. Yet no one seams to care.
Feb 17, 2009
 Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

No ifs or buts about it, it is child abuse. I was ten years old and my mother was mad at me again. As always this ment my sisters diapers and rubber pants, and a trip to the corner store and back. This was to show everyone that I was bad and acting like a baby.To this day I do not talk to my family under any circumstances.I still have dreams about waking up in humiliating places , such as at work wearing only diapers.

Note from Darlene: Thank you for sharing your experience, Anonymous. Doing so may well help others who have gone through something similar. It might also make those who incorporate such abusive methods in the name of discipline re-think their abusive ways.

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Feb 17, 2009
 Just a quick observation.
by: ten year old diaper punishment victim

Why do a lot of people that have had diaper punishment turn to diapers for comfort? It seems that a lot of the paticipants on this subject have turned back to wearing diapers to escape.When I was ten and mother would diaper me for punishment sake, I was so humiliated and could barely face myself in the mirror in our front hall.That was part of the punishment to stand and look at my diapered condition in the mirror. When all that was done I would be marched down the street in just diapers and rubber pants for all to laugh at and to ridicule. The children in the neighbourhood were merciless. I can quarantee that I don't go back to diapers to escape the memories.
Feb 17, 2009
 Robert P. only too right.
by: Anonymous

I have seen over the years with this subject that it almost always turns into an AB/DL forum.Can't we put our little fetishes away and contribute some usefull help or sugestions with out parading our sexual desires. Damn folks there are kids out there being scared for life. If the people want to dress in diapers for fun or escape fine but don't fit some young person into a diaper for the sake of correcting some petty misbehavior.Try it out yourself first and see how you like wearing diapers in front of the world around you.

Note from Darlene: Robert, I make EVERY effort to ensure this forum will not turn into a fetish forum. Comment don't go live until I've read and approved them. In fact, I've deleted at least a dozen posts here to ensure it NEVER turns into a fetish forum. But fetish IS a child abuse effect; so I would appreciate it you would refrain from posting reprimands to others who comment here. If I believe this thread is leaning too far in an unacceptable direction, I will close it down for good. meaning that no one will be able to leave comments here. Thank you for your understanding.

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Feb 17, 2009
 oops!
by: Anonymous

Darlene I must apologize for my reprimanding ways and take responsibility for my posting.Robert had nothing to do with this, I was simply agreeing with his posting earlier.I get my Irish up when this subject comes to the forefront for discussion.Even under the care of a Professional I become very upset when it was sugested diaper punishment was a good therapy for a misbehaving youth.So please do forgive me.

From Darlene: Thank you for clearing that up for me, Anonymous; apology graciously accepted.
And my apologies if I misread your true intent. You might like to know that I no longer allow posts that extol the "virtues" of this form of abuse; I delete them outright. I can understand how you would get your dander up. My position is now that I will not permit anyone to post anything on this site that promotes violence and abuse. Period.

And my sincere apologies to Robert; I obviously misread the post and confused the title with the name.

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Feb 17, 2009
 As a result of diaper discipline
by: Anonymous

As a result of my own diaper/nappy punishment around the age of nine years,for wetting my bed I developed a diaper fetish I THINK ...? I find comfort in wearing diapers, although I do not need to have sexual relief when wearing them, I do however sleep a lot better and I never want to face the real world the next day. So, far from this site becoming a fetish site, I think that we should keep an open book here, as childhood trauma can have so many differing side effects especially in later life.
Feb 17, 2009
 Apologies accepted
by: Robert P.

Dear Darlene,
I praise your work and intentions and would never question your integrity. I'm sure any reference to my name was meant well. God bless and keep up the great work. Hopefully it will save a child's future happiness.
Feb 18, 2009
 To robert P.:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

I thank you, Robert, for your graciousness. I didn't write this sooner because I had one foot in the door the other on the way out when I saw your message yesterday. I had no time to reply, so I decided to approve it to go live on the site and reply later. This morning has been an extraordinarily busy time on the site. It's been difficult to determine who to write to first. Just know that you've been on my mind since yesterday. I want you to know that I appreciate your patience.

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Feb 20, 2009
 diaper hell
by: Anonymous

Well some people think it is [child abuse] i do i was forced int diapers at aearly age after abuse from my aunt and uncle they used to put rubberbands aroud my penis when i would wet the bed this did my bladder a lot of harm, i stillhave problems to this day,i still wear diapers because i cant hold my bladder because of the damage it did me ase a kid.i was put in a foster home they made me wear diapers and plastic pants from 9 till around 16 years of age, to bed to school, around the house so yes that really messed with my head
Feb 22, 2009
 i hope
by: ronald f

i see people are sharing what has been done to them. it dose make me sad that it has been done. I hope we get the message out what affect it has on a child both short term and long term . i hope we can change any one mind that is thinking about the use of this punish ment to rethink and not use it
ronald f
Feb 23, 2009
 another victim
by: D.J.

I know from my own exposure to diaper punishment it leaves life long memories and horors.To be diapered at an age when you should be long since potty trained and humiliated to your surrounding family and friends.This is a real blow to your comfort and support group.That loving and allways dependable nest of security is never to be the same.I have done the therapy thing with a lot of very expensive Drs.and therapists and the hurt never seems to go away.I hope any parent who looks into the use of diaper punishment,stops and gives it a lot of careful thought.Put yourself into that situation and ask how would you like it?We have alot smarter children these days, than when I was nine years old. As parents we should be able to reason and agree with the kids to correct the misbehavior or at least work towards it.How putting a child into a diaper is going to help,I can't understand that logic.At nine years of age I was put back into diapers and baby pants for the summer holidays.My mother would take great pleasure in exposing my diapers to everyone,including all of my friends.
Feb 28, 2009
 diaper punishment
by: Anonymous

no its not allthough some people are affected by it the rest of there life and turn into adult babies and diaper lovers like me

Note from Darlene: With all due respect, Anonymous, it IS abuse. You're living proof of that.

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Mar 01, 2009
 not abuse
by: ronaldf

to anoyomous
you say it's not abuse, how bo you figure? is your ideal of abuse it leaves mo marks to be sean its not abuse.what about what you do not see. the act of putting a diaper on a child, them making them use it as if they were a baby. what effect do you think this has on a child. the group i'm speaking out about belives you take a child put them in diapers, you put locking plastic pants over them then you teel the child thats how it will be untill they are out of school. to school they have to wear pull ups, how do you not figure it is not abuse alot of the children have not did any thing wrong. there parents heard about a way to keep them out of troble so they were put into diapers for there own good. if you were 11 our 12 and you were forced in to diapers what would you do? when i go to the web to look for information i look at the scoure were the information comes from. i looked in to who the people were that were giving me the information. IT MADE ME MAD WHEN I SAW WHO WAS GIVING OUT INFORMATION ABOUT CHILD DISCIPLINE A ADULT MALE WHO IS NOT A PARENT I FOUND BOTH HIM AND HIS WIFE TO BE ADULT BABY DIAPER LOVERS.
HE GOES ONTO SITES LOOKING FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE SAY THEY ARE BEING DIAPER DISCIPLINED AND INVITES THEM TO HIS PRIVATE SITE FOR CHILDREN WHO ARE DIAPERED DISCIPLINED. I HAVE SEEN THE POST AND I HAVE COPYS OF THE POST.
gooble is a good tool you can find out a lot about a person . it kept in the data base for a long time.
now you still think it not abuse. i have been on the reciving end . yes there is no physal pain . but have you had to go out in the yard and play while wearing just a diaper. our have you had to wear a diaper to school for wetting the bed. think about it
Mar 15, 2009
 I understand some things
by: ronald f

I know that children need discipline . but there is line were discipline becomes abuse. no parent our any one else has the right to step over that line. I also under stand that some time diapers are used for medical reasons. the parent should talk to the child and explain why and help the child to under stand why they need to be used. i have had friends who have had to wear them i'm not going to say they liked it but they under stood why.
i did a lot of research into child discipline the last few years. i have looked into spanking, corner time and a lot of other ways to discipline a child.
i still do not know the secert. i do not belive that there is any one answer. i have looked in to the people who wer telling me how to discipline.
i grew up in a time were children were spanked, there was no such thing as a light spanking.
they were ment to get your attention.
there were some other punishment left over from the old times. diaper punishment was one of them
but it had its limits by that i mean there was a starting time and a time wer it would end. there were rules to it.
this group that is on the internet has no rules
that is why they are behind closed doors. they do not want the public to know whats going on.
there was a site started by the young folks you had to reguestior . but any one could. then you saw what was going on. with this group it is not so. you can ask to join . they may let you have limited prigles on the sight . I saw a lot of what would be called abuse. there are a lot of thing you can do to discipline a child. i found a lot of them had had diaper discipline use on them and they were looking in to it for that reason. they would say how it helped them to behave. they did not think about how it felt . to be forced in to diapers all they would say is it did them good to be in diapers for a while. maybe i'm missing some thing, for i remenber how it felt . so i fight the use of it the way this group uses it . i have said that most of these parents need to be treated in this fashion. but that may be the problem . people discipline there children for the most part the way they were.
Mar 16, 2009
 The other side
by: DJ

Reading over the comments with a near and dear friend.She was surprised about what I had posted about my diaper discipline, and how it bothers me still after many years. She related a very similar experience of her own when she was young and was troubled with bed wetting. She too was put in diapers at night and was not tormented about the cause of her diapering. She related to me her mother kept it as a special little secret between the two of them.Much to my surprise she says at times of stress she will wear diapers as a little escape from the stresses of life. all within the privacy of home, and not for any fetish or sexual gratification.I suppose I have answered my own question here. Her diapers were used as a tool to correct a problem and not as a discipline.My friend says she uses them as a comforting lounge wear and not for their designed purpose.
Mar 16, 2009
 Great Point
by: Robert P.

D] makes a great point. Diaper discipline is not the same as being put in diapers for practical reasons especially when administered with love and caring for the child's feelings.
Diaper discipline is usually done in a humiliating, demeaning way. I believe it is the shame and humiliation that causes the most harm. To be degraded, possibly even to the point of having to deliberately use the diapers, is to tear at the child's self image. This form of discipline (abuse) is meant to belittle the child, not correct behavior. The perpetrator is most likely driven by the power and control they feel over the child. Deliberately debasting a child in ANY WAY IS child abuse. Unfortunately its difficult to prove especially when done in the guise of correcting behavior problems.
D]'s mother kept her daughter's condition a secret out of respect for the child's self dignity. That makes all the difference in the world.
My heart goes out to all of you who have suffered under diaper discipline for I too have felt its life altering pains. God Bless all of you and know you are just as valued and special as anyone else.
Mar 22, 2009
 Diaper discipline IS SEXUAL abuse
by: Jigglypuff

I believe diaper discilipine is sexual abuse for the following reasons:

It involves the genital/excetory regions, and like child rape and sexual abuse, it is very demoralizing and scarring.

If Diaper discipline is continued for a prolonged time, then the child can has a chance of delevoping paraphilias in adulthood. Some of you adult babies probably inderstand what I mean.

I believe that anyone who encourages diaper discipline in a sexually abusive manner must be punished.
Apr 06, 2009
 GOD HELP US
by: Richard

im 52 seeing all these 50 yr olds diaper discipline must of been populor in the late 50 and 60s..its not good to be put in diapers against your will,,I forgive them that did this to me,,they thought it was best? and it was I was a heavy bed wetter but with two older and two boys younger and a baby sister it was hard and it has called many many problems in my life the only way i make it ,is to hang on to JESUS..IM ALONE WITH NO CHILDREN even if you do it for bed wetting or medical dont throw in humiliation public displaying, punishment or physical abuse...by what ive read so far people does care and its very impossible to get help with these adult babies it is a hard life,,but do not involve the innocent the children GOD BLESSES
Apr 06, 2009
 GOD HELP US
by: Richard

***Removed duplicate post***
Apr 10, 2009
 I just happened to drop in on this page....
by: The Wanderer

I feel that I needed to spread my own thoughts on the subject. I do not claim to know everything about abuse, nor do I claim to have any personal experience in the matter. I simply study the reactions of those who give them, and nothing more.

This subject in particular is a very controversial one. When I say controversial, I'm not talking about how the traumatized zealots wage a PR campaign against the fetishists.

Over the several psychologists I've consulted on the subject, most of them agree that this type of punishment in particular is very situation specific, and should not be used without express approval, for fear of mentally distressing the individual.

The idea that this can be classified as child abuse, or not child abuse, is not something that will remain constant through many examples.

For instance, a in his teens, let's say, is average in behavior, but has parents that treat misbehavior in a radical manner, or parents that are psychologically distressed. Either would apply to this situation. Diaper discipline would almost certainly lead to child abuse through the form of distressing mental abuse, and quite possibly physical abuse, if brought too far.

I personally will not make any claims as to what situation would this discipline NOT be considered child abuse. If you must really know whether or not it is abuse, the only way is to get information from, and conduct the punishment under the supervision of a registered psychiatric professional. Only after it is approved by said professional may I believe it is okay in said situation, with said punished individual.

In most, if not all cases though, I believe that there are much better alternatives. The risk of negative psychological impact is so high (just under 100% of individuals who experience Diaper Discipline), that it should be substituted with other methods.

Now that that is said, if anyone would like to contact me on the matter, I specialize in psychological reaction and human ethics.
Apr 10, 2009
 To The Wanderer:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

Thank you for your thoughtful response. You'll note I removed your email address from your comments above. In order to ensure my visitors stay safe, I have incorporated a strict policy about the inclusion of email addresses and other identifiable personal information on this site, either in comments or submissions. I thank you for your understanding.

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 to the wander
by: ronaldf

I agree. To me there was never any question about it being abuse. There was a doctor who did try to use a diaper thepary in the 1960. I do not know the out come but you no longer hear about it. My goal was to bring to light the affects of the use of it, that the so called diaper discipline has on a child. there is no question that it is abuse. I was doing reasearch on child discipline and came across this group. I had fromed a forum were the children could come and talk I was working on trying to get law enforcement involed when it went down. I have finley gotten the forum provider to look into the matter. I have started to form a parents group with its own forum to talk about abuse and to try to help children WHO ARE BEING ABUSED. There is one group on the web that promotes this form of discipline as a cure all for your child a quick fix . I have been trying to let it be known that this was abuse and the affects of using it on a child. It,s a by invite only site, what they do and say is behind closed doors. the local sherrif office has not been able to look at there site. Even if they were able they would not see whats going on. The group uses groups permission on the site were you are put into a group and given permision to view only what they want you to see. They do not let you see the member list untill you have posted a set number of posts to be sure that you are not trying to shut them down . I have tried to be verbal on many fronts as posible to let the affects be known .I would like to talk to you . But that would be up to the web master on this site.
You have to probe that abuse is going on . Its not enough to say they are telling parents how to do the discipline. If they do not see it our have reason to belive they can not do any thing
Ronald
Apr 15, 2009
 Diaper Discipline
by: Anonymous

I can say as a 50+ year old male that diaper discipline is why I'm a diaper fetishist also. At the ripe age of 9, my babysitter on a dare landed me in diapers.

At the time, it was demeaning, and demoralizing. Thankfully she never took it to the next level and told my mother or took me out in public.

But from the time I was 9 to approximately 12, anytime I was babysat by her, I was diapered and the bathroom was pretty much off limits.

I can't say it made me a better person, humble or even less rowdy. I can say that after years of psychological therapy, I'm comfortable with who I am, but still not completlely satisfied with how I turned out.

ANYONE that submits a minor to this type of treatment should be criminally and civily liable for the adult outcome. Anyone that thinks it isn't abuse in the first degree, is themselves an abused individual.

For those of you going to flame, before you waste your time, energy and electricity, DON'T bother. I've been attacked by the best and worst.

A minor, pure of heart and mind, SHOULD never be subjected to adult punishement.

If you want to use Diaper Discipline on a consenting adult, GO FOR IT!!!

But, children and innocent adults (developmentally disabled) should not be humilated and subjected to such treatments for any reason.

Do I enjoy wearing diapers? That's not any of your business.

Would I ever want a child to wear a diaper for me?
NEVER, absolutely NEVER EVER EVER.

Am I a pedophile? NO I'm an adult with a psycho-sexual deviant behavior fetish called Infantilism.

There have been cases of pedophiles infiltrating this fetish gendre' and taking advantage of teen AB/DL's and that's one reason why quite a few chat programs ban anything mature as far as diapers discussions. AOL has probably one of the oldest and longest running chatrooms and it's only available if you know the name of the room and how to get to it, but it's not a publicly available room, to keep pedophiles and minors from finding it.

CompuServe and Prodigy from years ago had age-play rooms and the few ruined it. So many fetishist are selfish, self centered and egotistical to think a partner, female or male should just fall head over heels in love with them, because they wear diapers.

Most of look ridiculous wearing them, but they make us feel good, but we should never think that we're educating or bringing a child into maturity by using diaper discipline...that's not our job.

They'll learn soon enough and that's part of the process of growing up!

...just my .02 cents
Apr 15, 2009
 To Anonymous who posted Apr 15, 2009:
by: Darlene Barriere - Webmaster

You don't EVER have to worry (or even think about) being attacked on this site; I would not, and do not, permit disrespectful posts or attacks against my visitors. No posts go live until after I've read and approved them. This is a safe place for abuse survivors to share what happened to them and the effects of what happened to them, both in childhood and adulthood. This site will ALWAYS be a soft place to land for people like you, Anonymous, who have the courage to share their stories here.

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Apr 16, 2009
 Diaper Discipline
by: Al

My brother and I were occassionally diapered disciplined when we were growing up. It didn't happen often (every few months or so I guess) and usually didn't last long (three weeks was the longest I ever got). We got punished like this right up until we finished school. I never really thought of it as abuse. We'd get it for low grades, or having attitude, or not doing what we were told. If we had to go to school when we were being punished we had to wear training pants and plastic pants unless we had PT. The rest of the time we wore disposable diapers and plastic pants. When we were diapered we were treated differently: we weren't allowed to watch TV, use hot water in the shower, speak without permission, eat with the rest of the family ... just sort of stuff to make you feel you were being punished. And it meant you got hit alot too for no reason. After a couple of days in diapers the backs of my legs would be blazing red and I'd find it hard to sit down. I've talked to my brother about it since then and he has alot more negative feelings about it than I do. He doesn't get on well with our parents. I get on better with them but think sometimes they were too strict.

From Darlene: Al, the effects on your brother are far more consistent with this type of so-called discipline than you may realize. Diapering an adolescent for discipline is emotional abuse that can have serious lifelong consequences. Whether you see it that way or not, what your parents did to you and your brother WAS abuse, and on much more than one level. That doesn't mean you can't have a positive relationship with your parents; it means you need to understand what your brother is going through.

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Apr 16, 2009
 Diapers a tool or child abuse?
by: Just DJ again

We have had so many comments of good experiences and bad ones dealing with diaper punishment.I have to give some respect to the people that have admitted out right to being diaper fetishists. I know that I could never divulge that info.My friend that read my postings about my diaper punishment was very open about how she wears diapers as an adult stress refuge as such.Her diapers were her and her mother's secret to control bed wetting.It was a warm secure little place between two loving family members ie: the tool.She very much loves her mother and holds no ill feelings from her experience with diapers into adolescence.In comparison I was not a bed wetter and did not need diapers for any of the justified reasons for diapers.They were used as a brutal attack on my self image and the visual image as I was paraded about in diapers.To be ten years old and have a very angry mother diaper you in the front yard of your home For all to laugh at and then lock you out of the house in just diapers and plastic pants.I can honestly say I know how that fly feels that gets swatted with a sledge hammer.My sledge was a diaper, and the very cruel children of the neighbourhood.A short film brings a lot of this pain back into my heart.It is Redemption by M.Bryson it is on the net, please do not have your children around if you do look at it.There should be no question of this being child abuse or not.One other little rant my friend offered me one of her diapers to try,I could not even attempt to put it on,I'm 6 ft.2in. 245 lbs and afraid of a diaper.More counselling for me.
Apr 18, 2009
 one question
by: ronald f

i have some forums i use phpbb3 for them. i had a forum were children could come to that were being diaper discipline. i had posted about it on one of the diaper discipline. i had a few users on it . they could come and talk tell how they fill. if like some would have you belive that diaper discipline is not real, them you would think that this site would not be a treat right. well this site ended up being high-jacked. some how my forum was replaced by an other one. we have a new forum were any child who being diaper disciplined can come. we will give them support and try to get them help. we will see what happens